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Incorrect VRN entered, PCN issued
Luna72
post Tue, 9 Aug 2022 - 12:12
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I reside in Scotland. During a recent holiday in the south west of England, the driver of vehicle in question allegedly entered an incorrect VRM (by mistake) whilst paying for parking at a Leisure Centre. The correct fee was allegedly paid. The first letter of the VRM only was incorrect. i have checked the incorrect registration on DVLA website and it has not been issued (i.e. there are no cars with this reg plate.)

The keeper has received a PCN with a request for payment of £100; £60 if paid within 14 days. The original ticket purchased with the incorrect VRM is almost certainly disposed of.

What are the options?

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post Thu, 11 Aug 2022 - 15:20
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The keeper has received a PCN with a request for payment of £100;

As is SOP for this forum it would be nice to see this, all of it less purely personal info.

The first letter of the VRM only was incorrect. i have checked the incorrect registration on DVLA website and it has not been issued (i.e. there are no cars with this reg plate.)

From which could be deduced that you were driving and a PCN (Notice to Driver) was left on the windscreen, otherwise how would you know such details, in particular that the first letter of the VRM was incorrect? After all, this wouldn't be apparent on a PCN (Notice to Keeper). And if a NTD was served, why would anyone throw away/lose this evidence?

Can we have the full account please(but don't admit who eas driving) notices and timeline pl.

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Luna72
post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 13:24
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In August last year the driver of the vehicle in question allegedly committed a parking offence in England by mistakenly entering the wrong VRN whilst paying. I reside in Scotland and am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I followed the advice in these pages to ‘file and ignore’ the numerous subsequent letters from Smart Parking and their associated debt collectors. I have today received a ‘ Letter Before Claim’ from CST Law advising they have been instructed by Smart Parking to commence legal action against me. There is an attached reply form with a deadline of 30 days to reply. The total amount of claim is £170. What are my next steps? Thanks
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DWMB2
post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 13:33
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I've asked the moderator to merge this post with your existing thread.


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The Rookie
post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 13:57
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Can you post a photo of the letter so we can see EXACTLY what is (and is not) said.

While you reside in Scotland, just to be clear, the address they have is in Scotland?

What I'm looking to see is if they have threatened something which may be applicable in England and not Scotland (not least using English Pre Action protocols).


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Luna72
post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 14:42
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I reside in Scotland and the address they have for me is in Scotland.

Here is the letter with details removed

Will resubmit letter shortly as details were showing thru redactions

Letter re attached

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post Wed, 22 Mar 2023 - 14:53
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I'd feel inclined to write back asking why they are writing to you under the Civil Procedure Rules 1988 for England and Wales when you live in Scotland.

Then asking them to write to you in compliance with Act of Sederunt (Small Claim Rules) 2002 No. 133 for Scotland. Should throw a domesticated feline among some feathered rats with wings.


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Council PCN's
Rookies 1-0 Warwick
Rookies 1-0 Birmingham

PPC PCN's
Rookies 10-0 PPC's
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Luna72
post Mon, 3 Apr 2023 - 11:39
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I have incorporated your suggestion into the attached letter. Do you think I should send this?

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DWMB2
post Mon, 3 Apr 2023 - 12:50
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Your proposed letter asks them for a breakdown of costs, then in the next sentence you tell them not to write to you again. It may be worth rewording this sentence to simply clarify that you are the registered keeper, and that as there is no obligation to name the driver you will not be doing so.

I'd also avoid the use of the word "offence", as this is not a criminal matter.

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