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post Thu, 24 Jan 2019 - 22:48
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A large Ford Transit has been parked outside my next door neighbours.

It has now been parked for a couple of weeks now

The van is causing major problems for myself and my neighbours due to its proximity to our drives. Unlike cars, vans cause problems when parked due to their size and the lack of windows. Anyone coming out of the drives of cannot see what is coming down the road and there have been a number of near misses.

As far as I can tell, there is insurance on the vehicle which as there’s no restrictions apart from certain days, it is probably legally parked although its front wheel is outside the box.

Is there anything that can be done about this van? Is there any legislation which prevents the parking of such large vehicles on public roads where their presence can cause a danger to others?

I don’t know if this vehicle has a permit, if it does not then then the Council can legally remove it on the next event day if its still parked there.

If due to its being parked on the road, an accident is caused, can the driver of the van be held responsible. Our road is very busy and is heavily parked by commuters.

The area near us is plagued by vans from another borough where there are restrictions and are often parked for days and used for storage.



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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 05:24
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If it’s legally parked then there is nothing that can be done, if it’s legally parked it’s not causing an unnecessary obstruction either so I can’t see any grounds for it being held liable for an accident!


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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 07:49
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QUOTE (Korting @ Thu, 24 Jan 2019 - 22:48) *
As far as I can tell, there is insurance on the vehicle which as there’s no restrictions apart from certain days, it is probably legally parked although its front wheel is outside the box.


Doesn't that mean it's NOT legally parked?
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 08:09
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What it means is that even if he had a permit, on Event Days he could get aPCN or even a tow.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 08:58
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What have the council said?


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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:02
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QUOTE (Korting @ Thu, 24 Jan 2019 - 22:48) *
If due to its being parked on the road, an accident is caused, can the driver of the van be held responsible.


Much more likely the driver of the other vehicle for hitting a stationary object! wacko.gif


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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:40
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 05:24) *
if it’s legally parked it’s not causing an unnecessary obstruction either so I can’t see any grounds for it being held liable for an accident!


If it's restricting visibility of oncoming traffic for residents exiting their property surely that would constitute a danger and thus an obstruction.

Ok you say you go by know if it has a permit, are there restrictions where it's parked then? You are assuming its legally parked, Have you contacted the council?
I would contact both council and police see what they say.

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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:45
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Is the van parked overnight? If so is it displaying parking lights? You may struggle to get anybody interested but it would be an offence.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 10:04
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QUOTE (Foxy01 @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:45) *
Is the van parked overnight? If so is it displaying parking lights? You may struggle to get anybody interested but it would be an offence.

Only if facing the wrong way or limit is above 30mph IIRC
Law on parking lights was changed years back.
Would have to check details but I'm sure the above is correct.


Contact council and police.
Given what you have said probably not a lot they can do. but if don't ask you will not know.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 10:07
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 10:04) *
QUOTE (Foxy01 @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:45) *
Is the van parked overnight? If so is it displaying parking lights? You may struggle to get anybody interested but it would be an offence.

Only if facing the wrong way or limit is above 30mph IIRC
Law on parking lights was changed years back.
Would have to check details but I'm sure the above is correct.


Contact council and police.
Given what you have said probably not a lot they can do. but if don't ask you will not know.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/17...ulation/24/made
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 11:23
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It’s been parked for nearly two weeks. It’s parked facing oncoming traffic, no lights. It’s taking up two car spaces though the bay is not marked out as such, but you cannot see when edging out of a drive and its a miracle that there hasn’t been a collision.

Although the road is a 20mph limit, nobody sticks to it, I’ve seen cars going up and down at 30 - 40mph
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QUOTE (Korting @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 11:23) *
you cannot see when edging out of a drive and its a miracle that there hasn’t been a collision.

That would be the fault of the driver reversing out, not a parked van.


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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 12:50
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QUOTE (Foxy01 @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 10:07) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 10:04) *
QUOTE (Foxy01 @ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 09:45) *
Is the van parked overnight? If so is it displaying parking lights? You may struggle to get anybody interested but it would be an offence.

Only if facing the wrong way or limit is above 30mph IIRC
Law on parking lights was changed years back.
Would have to check details but I'm sure the above is correct.


Contact council and police.
Given what you have said probably not a lot they can do. but if don't ask you will not know.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/17...ulation/24/made


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So add to the 30mph and facing the right way, unladen weight may apply.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 13:00
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Even a short wheel base transit is about 1700kgs kerb weight standard. A LWB is nearly 2000kgs.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 13:41
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We always reverse into the drive, so exit facing the right way, have done for years.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 19:15
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I lived in a house for sixteen years where - designed long before cars existed - the driveway opened blind onto a busy, straight A-road, trees and walls blocking your view coming out.

It is not a "miracle" to get out of a drive with limited visibility. You just edge forward slowly so drivers can see the nose of your car but you aren't blocking the carriageway. Did it thousands of times and every single time drivers realise and allow you out.
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A practice that would not work what I live as no one would let you out.
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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 21:26
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Well if you're just careering out into the road blind then it is miraculous you haven't had a crash.

Otherwise quite clearly people are stopping.

FWIW can't be worse than this was.

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post Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 21:43
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I sympathise to an extent.
We had a large van habitually park at the top of our road, within the 10m limit to a junction (that everyone ignores anyway)
With vehicles on other side it meant that road was single user only plus the van totally blocked sightlines.
But short of the police actually getting interested in an FPN, not a lot anyone could do.

And I have a large MPV usually parked right on the slope end of my dropped kerb.
Perfectly legitimately BTW.
Blocked sightlines when pulling out of my drive which hedges don't help.
No point in complaining to the owner though, it's mine.
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post Sat, 26 Jan 2019 - 16:31
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It is different parking on the corner of a junction vs the corner of a driveway. Apart from the volume of traffic parking on the corner of a junction blocks the view for pedestrians too.

Of course around here people helpfully park wholly on the pavement on the corner of junctions instead.
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