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Mosopy
post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 06:54
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Iam an hgv driver, my employers received a nip for speeding and iam the driver.
Iam on 9 points, not sure how they would react to a ban on my part. I fear for my job.
How can I best plead my case to not receive a ban ?
I have a SGO with my granddaughter, my wife had to give up work to look after her, Iam the only wage earner
Any advise would be welcome, Iam worried sick
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 07:21
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Do you not qualify for a course to avoid the points?

If you do reach 12 points then you will have the opportunity to submit an exceptional hardship plea to the court.

The impact on others carries more weight and in itself losing your job isn’t necessarily considered truly exceptional. If successful then the 6 months ban can be reduced, potentially to none.

You should tell your employer ASAP. Any hearing is likely to be many months away.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 08:42
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Alledged speed? Limit?


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Mosopy
post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:27
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Thankyou very much , I've not seen the nip only been told by the boss, I was in the area of alledged speeding Monday, could it have been processed within 2 days ??
Also if I have to travel to Leeds for a court appearance, could I drive there, are bans , if given imediate, or could I drive home to manchester ?
Appreciate this thanks
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:30
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Bans are immediate, yes.
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:37
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:27) *
Also if I have to travel to Leeds for a court appearance, could I drive there, are bans , if given imediate, or could I drive home to manchester ?
Appreciate this thanks

You could ask to have the matter transferred to a court nearer to you. But first things first. Depending on the speed you may be eligible for a course to avoid points. It may be offered if you have not done one for an offence which was committed within the three years prior to this one. They are normally offered up to (Limit +10% +9mph). I'm not sure if driving an HGV at the time might mean no offer is made.
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:53
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:27) *
could it have been processed within 2 days ??

Yes.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:55
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Won't be eligible for a course I got points last year in my car
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 16:44
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:55) *
Won't be eligible for a course I got points last year in my car

That does affect your eligibility for a course. What I stated earlier are the criteria for course eligibility.
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 16:56
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Getting points last year does not of itself mean ineligible.

Doing the same course within 3 years is the trigger.

There are different courses for a 20mph limit, a national awareness course and a motorway. Not all forces offer all courses.



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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 18:07
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 16:44) *
QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 15:55) *
Won't be eligible for a course I got points last year in my car


That does NOT affect your eligibility for a course. What I stated earlier are the criteria for course eligibility.



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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 18:36
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 18:07) *
FTFY

Thank you, Peter.
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:04
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Sorry I'm not sure if the nip is within 14 days I haven't seen it, my boss rang iam away in the wagon.
I have attended a sac, few years back, is there a way of checking ?
May have to trawl bank statements, thanks for your help, I appreciate it greatly
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:28
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:04) *
Sorry I'm not sure if the nip is within 14 days I haven't seen it, my boss rang iam away in the wagon.
I have attended a sac, few yers back, is there a way of checking ?


First, your boss needs to name you on the NIP he has. Then you'll receive your own in your name.

If you qualify, you'll be offered a SAC when you return the NIP naming yourself as the driver.


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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:44
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Does your company own the vehicle, have you seen the V5C in their name?

Chances are the vehicle will be leased and the first NIP went to the finance company.
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:50
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They own it baggie, not leased nor rented
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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 20:00
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:04) *
Sorry I'm not sure if the nip is within 14 days I haven't seen it, my boss rang iam away in the wagon. I have attended a sac, few years back, is there a way of checking ? May have to trawl bank statements, thanks for your help, I appreciate it greatly


What matters is not actually the date you attended a course, but the date of the speeding offence the course related to, that needs to be three years before the latest offence.



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post Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 20:13
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:50) *
They own it baggie, not leased nor rented


Our advice to anyone is to SEE the V5C.


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post Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 05:56
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Thanks for the advise
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post Sat, 12 Jan 2019 - 06:19
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QUOTE (Mosopy @ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 19:50) *
They own it baggie, not leased nor rented

Bought on finance? Often the finance company will be the RK then.

'Companies' (the lower level employee first asked) get the answer to the question wrong more often than they do right in my experience on these threads.


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