MOT exemption to remain at 3 years |
MOT exemption to remain at 3 years |
Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 00:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
That silly proposal to change it to 4 years has been binned
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations...date-to-4-years -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 08:35
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,749 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 From: hull Member No.: 14,394 |
I've been an mot tester of various classer scince 1981. Every now and again killers were presented on their first mot. One in particular had no rear footbrakes and can have had none from new. 4 years before the first mot would have killed.
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Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 18:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,390 Joined: 14 Nov 2006 From: Wales Member No.: 8,984 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter.
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Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 22:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter. I've had a car pass with flying colours one year, and fail with stuff that, if left for another 12 months, would have become dangerous. I don't think there's much support for adopting such a system in this country, as the consultation outcome has shown. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 22:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter. If the French manage it must be OK then -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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Thu, 18 Jan 2018 - 22:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,963 Joined: 19 Dec 2006 From: Near Calais Member No.: 9,683 |
What I find very worrying is the first time pass rate for vans. For 3 year old vans the fail rate is about 46%, meaning that 54% are fit for the road after 3 years. As Spanner says, 4 years would kill, especially on vans which are usually driven into the ground long before the 3 years is up.
The fail rate for lorries is around 18% and buses around 12%. But then buses and lorries are tested before first use and then every year. I can't remember what the fail rate for cars is offhand. |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 08:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,749 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 From: hull Member No.: 14,394 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter. The French generally do not use highly corrosive salt to clear the roads. We do. -------------------- ARSE DRINK FECK........
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 10:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter. The French generally do not use highly corrosive salt to clear the roads. We do. Depends what part of France, northern and alpine regions get pretty cold and icy. Spanner, you obviously see plenty of cars at MOT in your job and probably lots of rusty heaps. But do you really see serious structural corrosion on 3 year old motors? I thought those days had gone. |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 11:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,749 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 From: hull Member No.: 14,394 |
The French seem to manage OK with the first Controle Technique test at just before four years from new and every 2 years thereafter. The French generally do not use highly corrosive salt to clear the roads. We do. Depends what part of France, northern and alpine regions get pretty cold and icy. Spanner, you obviously see plenty of cars at MOT in your job and probably lots of rusty heaps. But do you really see serious structural corrosion on 3 year old motors? I thought those days had gone. -------------------- ARSE DRINK FECK........
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 11:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
.........I ceased testing classes 3,4 a few years ago but according to others, structural no. Brake pipes, seized calipers, handbrake mechanisms sometimes. That makes more sense though brake pipes would worry me in that young a car. Calipers and the like, no real surprise but even then, a three year old car should not be suffering nor should it get past services... assuming that the motor has been serviced. |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 11:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,749 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 From: hull Member No.: 14,394 |
.........I ceased testing classes 3,4 a few years ago but according to others, structural no. Brake pipes, seized calipers, handbrake mechanisms sometimes. That makes more sense though brake pipes would worry me in that young a car. Calipers and the like, no real surprise but even then, a three year old car should not be suffering nor should it get past services... assuming that the motor has been serviced. -------------------- ARSE DRINK FECK........
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 12:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 12:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Member No.: 2,852 |
I've just had my first (3 years old) motorcycle MOT, it had done just shy of 60,000 miles, imagine what could have failed during that time if not looked after.
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 13:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,178 Joined: 1 Jan 2013 From: Glasgow Member No.: 59,097 |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 17:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 3 Feb 2008 Member No.: 17,078 |
I had recently bought a car with "6 months MOT". I always as a habit, take any car I buy for an MOT for piece of mind and to make sure the vehicle is fit for the road.
It had a couple of advisories.... Then 6 months later... 4 Years without a test is way too long. |
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Fri, 19 Jan 2018 - 20:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,963 Joined: 19 Dec 2006 From: Near Calais Member No.: 9,683 |
The same sort of failure items are sen on 3 year old vans, but usually with much higher mileages than cars.
A colleague who operated a few psv minibuses bought a brand new Vauxhall minibus about 10 years ago; i asked him if he wanted it checked before it went for its certificate of initial fitness. No thanks. It failed because the steering drop arm was loose on the shaft. VOSA had a few words with Vauxhall on that. It cost my friend an immediate prohibition and another rather expensive COIF test. |
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Sat, 20 Jan 2018 - 21:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,306 Joined: 4 Mar 2017 Member No.: 90,659 |
Should be done on mileage or year, whichever comes first, in my opinion at least for the moment when traffic enforcement seems to be almost non-existent just on the basis of cars around with defective lights. Call me old fashioned but I always have spare bulbs in the car, and if I didn't I'd stop at the first petrol station to get more.
It simply doesn't make sense that a company van could potentially do 300,000 miles before needing an MoT. They check the mileometer anyway, just make it 50k miles initially then every 25k miles with a £30 extra test fee if you go over it. Reduce the test fee for everyone else. If you have a well maintained car £40 every year or 25k miles is nothing. |
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Sun, 21 Jan 2018 - 00:34
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Call me old fashioned but I always have spare bulbs in the car, and if I didn't I'd stop at the first petrol station to get more. Good luck with changing those at the roadside with most modern cars. -------------------- Regards,
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Sun, 21 Jan 2018 - 20:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10,460 Joined: 8 Sep 2008 Member No.: 22,424 |
I think it MOT tests should be compulsary from new- i.e. a brand new car out the factory should go through one. Dealers do pre delivery inspections, but these aren't comprehensive enough.
I borrowed a 67 plate Cee'd recently- it only had 1500 miles on it, but one of the DRL's was out (LED so it shouldn't have failed already). Another car I had was a 17 plate E-Class. It had high miles on it- over 50k but I can't remember specifics. The two front tyres were borderline legal if that. Being a communal fleet car, nobody seems to take responsibility for checking these things. On the other hand when I had a 15 year old 106, it passed its MOT without so much as an advisory. I like the idea above about mileage limits as well as time. Even if the mileage check only covered consumables, it would be worth doing. |
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Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 14:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
I borrowed a 67 plate Cee'd recently- it only had 1500 miles on it, but one of the DRL's was out (LED so it shouldn't have failed already). If we're going into what shouldn't happen, IMO cars shouldn't have DRLs at all. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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