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Dontgiveup2010
post Fri, 15 Mar 2019 - 19:38
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Hello all,

I really need some urgent help please.

Long stort short, I was returning to car my yesterday evening after work having left it parked in a street and my car was no longer there.

I immediately phoned the police as I thought my car was stolen but it turned out the car had been impounded.

The police gave me details of the company who towed the car, so I immediately phoned their 24 hrs number.

LN Recovery (towing service) confirmed they towed my car to their impound but were unable to explain why and provided me with details for Marstons Group who were delaing with debt.

I phoned Marstons Group this morning and they explained that they were managing a debt on behalf of Barnet Council for an alleged 'prohibited turn' offence I committed in June 2018.

The problem is, any letters or PCN notices were sent to my last known fixed address which I no longer reside at and I've been staying with different friends/family ever since.


I'm not sure what the original charge would have been but I can't imagine it would have been more that £150.

However, Marstons explained that when Barnet passed the debt over, it was originally £203 but with their costs i.e. towing, visits, etc. the total is now £623 with a daily charge of £18 for every day the car is left in storage.

I spoke with Barnet Council today and explained the situation and how I need the car back asap for some weekend and it's my means of transport.

Barnet gave me a couple of options:

1) Pay the full amount which essentially is admitting liability
2) Appeal with the Traffic Enforcement Team (T7) but a decision on the appeal could take upto 56 days with the risk of additional costs being added, should I lose.

Any advice will gratefully appreciated
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Neil B
post Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 16:58
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QUOTE (Dontgiveup2010 @ Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 13:56) *
Baliff Advice - Say I file the OOT forms and get them sent over to the TEC before 4pm tomorrow. Are you saying that Wednesday (20/03/19) is the likely day the baliff will be informed to put a HOLD pending a decision on my application?

Whilst it's on HOLD, I can't accrue any further costs, right?

I'm not sure; BA may know more.

Don't think 'hold' stops storage fees?

Even if it did then they don't often release vehicles just because an OOT has been filed.
So if that application then failed surely they'd want storage fees for the time they've held it, while
the OOT is decided?

Not sure but it's mad to risk it when you have a better option.


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Neil B
post Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 17:45
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QUOTE (Dontgiveup2010 @ Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 16:53) *
So just to be clear, are you saying I can still file the OOT forms even if I've paid ???

Yes.
But if car recovered you must take time to get OOT optimised.

4pm and suspension of enforcement has no relevance since the latter is complete bar storage fees
and disposal.
Recovery ends the last two elements. Not suspends, ends.


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Dontgiveup2010
post Tue, 19 Mar 2019 - 10:22
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 17:45) *
QUOTE (Dontgiveup2010 @ Mon, 18 Mar 2019 - 16:53) *
So just to be clear, are you saying I can still file the OOT forms even if I've paid ???

Yes.
But if car recovered you must take time to get OOT optimised.

4pm and suspension of enforcement has no relevance since the latter is complete bar storage fees
and disposal.
Recovery ends the last two elements. Not suspends, ends.


Many thanks NeilB that's put my mind at rest for now.

I'll be making arrangements to pay the baliffs and collect the car later today.

I'll keep you all posted.

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Dontgiveup2010
post Tue, 19 Mar 2019 - 15:55
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Hello again.

I've taken taken everyone's advice and got my car back - I do feel a sense of relief knowing I won't be paying any further costs for storage.

In total I paid £677 to the company via debit card.

If possible, I'd like to get the ball rolling with regards to contesting this whole matter.

I have the PE2 and PE3 forms - Should I start by filling these out?
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post Tue, 19 Mar 2019 - 17:14
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QUOTE (Dontgiveup2010 @ Tue, 19 Mar 2019 - 15:55) *
I have the PE2 and PE3 forms - Should I start by filling these out?

Start by understanding what they are and a draft of what you intend to say on PE2 and post it here.

PE2 is a request to file PE3 late and should explain why you could not do so in normal time.

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