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d-evil
post Wed, 14 Feb 2018 - 17:00
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Hi all,

hope you can help. wife visited her sister in east london (we live in the midlands) and parked in a residents bay as she was told she would be given a scratch card to put on which gives parking. When she got there and parked up, not only did she have two kids (1 and 5 years old), her sister upstairs had two kids as well so neither could leave the kids alone. So my wife went up with the kids (tower block), left them with her sister and got the scratch card down to display. by the time she got back down, there was a PCN on the car.
I have made an informal rep explaining exactly this which has been rejected. please see the PCN and letters below.

PCN and scratch card.


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post Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 08:01
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Thank you so much.
I will give it some time before sending.
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post Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 10:16
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 00:19) *
QUOTE (d-evil @ Wed, 14 Feb 2018 - 20:26) *
Thank you so much for your help. Please see initial draft.

I've tidied this up a bit, I'm sure others will chip in with any additional suggestions. If your wife is able to truthfully provide any details about inevitable delays (such as the lift stopped on however many floors) those details should be added under ground 1. By the way be prepared for the fact that there's a 99% chance the council will reject this (they want your money) and you'll have to appeal to the London Tribunals, but I'm as confident as I can be that this will get cancelled at that stage.

To Whom it may concern,

Please accept the below as my formal representations against the Notice to Owner issued on 6 February 2018 for PCN number XXXXXX

Ground 1: The Contravention did not occur:
My wife was driving her car from the midlands down to east London with my two young children. Upon arriving, she had to obtain a scratch parking permit from her sister, who lives on the 16th floor of a high rise building. Her sister also has young children who cannot be left unattended, so it was not possible for my wife's sister to bring a visitor's permit down to the car. My wife therefore secured the car and made her way to her sister's flat, together with her young children, in order to obtain a permit. Once there, she obtained the ticket, she ensured that it had been scratched according to the rules, and left the children with her sister. Unfortunately at this point the children were crying not to be left alone after they had been sleeping for an hour and 30 minute journey and had just woken up. Nonetheless, my wife made her way back to the car without any unnecessary delay, unfortunately by the time she had returned to the car a PCN had already been placed on the windscreen. I enclose a copy of the scratch card as evidence of the above.

The parking scheme in place requires visitors to obtain a visitor's parking permit and display it on the dashboard. Motorists obtain visitor permits from the premises they are visiting, there is no requirement that a stock of visitor permits be kept in the vehicle. It is a necessary implication of the scheme that the motorist is allowed a reasonable amount of time to obtain a visitor's permit and return to the vehicle, where this is done without unnecessary delay, no contravention of the parking scheme occurs. I refer you to the decision of adjudicator Carl Teper in London Tribunals case 2160400146:

"The Authority's case is that the Appellant's vehicle was parked in a residents' permit bay without clearly displaying a valid residents' permit or voucher when in Wilberforce Road on 16 June 2016 at 12.37.
The Appellant's case is that he had gone to collect a visitor's permit from a customer's home, and that the Penalty Charge Notice was issued before he could display the visitor's voucher. He has produced the visitor's voucher and a statement from the customer confirming his evidence.
I have considered the evidence in this case and I find that insufficient time was permitted for the Appellant driver Mr Cameron to collect, validate and display the visitor's voucher, which had been given to him, in his vehicle.
The appeal is allowed.
"

Ground 2: There has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority:
In its letter dated 11 January 2018 the council has stated "Please be advised that it remains the driver's responsibility to ensure that the scratch card is properly scratched off and displayed upon closing the doors of your vehicle", this statement evidences the council has misdirected itself in law and this amounts to a procedural impropriety.

I refer you to the decision in London Tribunals case 2050413235, where adjudicator Martin Wood stated, in so far as is relevant:
"In its Case Summary the local authority says that although signs indicate that vouchers may be purchased from shops displaying the P it is expected that a supply of vouchers be kept in the vehicle. This latter expectation has no justification in law and if the local authority is dealing with representations on this basis it must cease doing so at once. The scheme is that vouchers are sold by shops and that is the source of them for motorists"

In this case, the council's assertion that a visitor permit must be displayed before the car doors are closed means, by necessary implication, that the council expects a supply of visitor permits be kept in the vehicle. As in the above case, this expectation has no justification in law, the scheme in this instance is that visitor permits are obtained from the occupiers of the premises being visited, and that is the source of visitor permits for motorists. It thus follows that visiting motorists are allowed a short but reasonable amount of time to obtain a permit and return to the car to display it. The assertion that the permit must be displayed before the vehicle doors are closed has no basis in law. As the council has misdirected itself in law, the council has committed a procedural impropriety following which the penalty charge cannot be enforced.

In light of the above, I expect the Penalty Charge Notice and the Notice to Owner to be cancelled.

Kind regards



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Unfortunately at this point the children were crying not to be left alone after they had been sleeping for an hour and 30 minute journey and had just woken up. Nonetheless


I would leave out this bit. It could intimate or be used to by this shower to suggest that the wife spent some time soothing the children. Any normal person would expect this but not council money grabbers
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stamfordman
post Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 10:20
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+1

Also:

"16th floor of a high rise building."

Say what building it is - xxxx Tower or whatever. Also, did you park outside the building - how close could you get?

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