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Slumberished
post Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 18:18
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Hello from newbie, hope someone can help.

Whilst dropping my daughter off for her lesson, I parked on a parking bay adjacent to the main road near an industrial estate. This parking bay has been regularly used by parents dropping off their children and I have been doing this for more than a year. There are no signs indicating parking restriction of any kind.

Today on returning to the car I found a parking sign suddenly appeared in front of my car on a pole (wasn’t there 5 min before when I parked). Puzzled, I started looking around and noticed a guy planting signs (mostly placed in the hedge) and then taking pictures of cars parked. I confronted him but he just ignored me and continued to take pictures. The sign says £100 penalty for parking on private land.

Few of us exchanged details to be witnesses to this abhorent behaviour by that guy, just in case they issue a penalty notice. Is this legally enforceable? Thanks for your help.
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Slumberished
post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 18:41
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Adding further info:-

1. There is no information of when the breach occurred. Period of Parking- from N/A, To N/A
2. The stated place where the breach occurred is NOT where the car was parked. The address provided is a total lie and correspond to parking spaces in a series of industrial units on the other side of the road. The car was parked in unmarked parking spaces by the main road and far away from any industrial units.
3. No evidence of parking provided (APNR images, pictures etc)
4. Date and Time of Issue: 20th April. This predates the actual incident date. However, the car was also parked in the same place on 20th April (lessons for Children every Friday) but no signs were in place on that day. Hence I’m not sure if the PCN received today is related to my original topic.
5. RK was served PCN approximately after 81 days (going by the incident date as claimed). The footer of the letter states Notice to Keeper – non PoFA

How do we fight this please?

The appeal body is not POPLA but IAS which I understand is akin to asking turkeys to vote for Christmas.







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The Slithy Tove
post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 20:13
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QUOTE (Slumberished @ Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 19:41) *
4. Date and Time of Issue: 20th April. This predates the actual incident date. However, the car was also parked in the same place on 20th April (lessons for Children every Friday) but no signs were in place on that day. Hence I’m not sure if the PCN received today is related to my original topic.

I wonder if they even had a contract with the landowner on 20/04. Something very dodgy going on.
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- Slumberished   Signs planted and then pictures taken...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 18:18
- - whjohnson   Which parking company? Is the word 'penalty...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 19:05
- - MatchlessG80   Not much is surprising in the world of private par...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 19:08
- - Jlc   QUOTE (Slumberished @ Fri, 15 Jun 2018 ...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 19:22
- - Slumberished   Thanks for your replies. Happened in Langley (Slo...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 19:56
- - Jlc   Hmmm. You'll have to wait and see if they acc...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 20:03
|- - MatchlessG80   I’m wondering if this is a tactic and would defi...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 20:08
|- - Rifty   QUOTE (Jlc @ Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 21:0...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 21:14
- - Slumberished   Thank you. It certainly seem to be a mobile sign a...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 20:19
- - Dave65   You may want to edit your post and remove anything...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 21:51
- - SchenJen   Private Parking companies are the scum of the Eart...   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 - 23:45
- - emanresu   QUOTE You'll have to wait and see if they acce...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 05:43
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (emanresu @ Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 06...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 07:53
- - Redivi   Note the BPA logo as well Select Security was inc...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 07:56
- - Jlc   Some interesting gems from their website too: We ...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 08:12
- - The Rookie   You can be a member of the BPA but not in the AOS ...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 08:14
- - Redivi   A number of IPC members are in the BPA What's...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 08:29
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 09...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 09:07
- - flexeh   Just had a mooch at the address as well. - PO box ...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 08:49
|- - Redivi   QUOTE (flexeh @ Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 09...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 09:31
- - MatchlessG80   Would it be worthwhile - if the OP is inclined - t...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 11:11
- - Jlc   What would be great is to see if this is a well re...   Sat, 16 Jun 2018 - 11:19
- - Slumberished   Many thanks to everyone for their comments. I...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 06:12
- - MatchlessG80   Just been looking at their website, specifically t...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 11:30
- - The Rookie   I'd consider a pre-emptive strike on this 1/ T...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 11:42
|- - ManxRed   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 1...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 11:50
|- - The Slithy Tove   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 1...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 14:27
|- - The Rookie   QUOTE (The Slithy Tove @ Mon, 18 Jun 2018 ...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 15:05
- - ostell   If they don't contact the DVLA then they are l...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 12:23
- - nosferatu1001   ...and the quick way to confirm they havent used y...   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 - 12:41
- - MatchlessG80   Their web site now seems to have vanished (might b...   Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 13:32
- - Redivi   It's certainly reportable to Trading Standards...   Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 13:35
- - Slumberished   RK received the ‘Parking Charge Notice to Keepe...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 16:12
- - Jlc   Does it claim keeper liability? The DVLA needs to...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 16:22
- - Slumberished   Does not mention about keeper's liability. Ta.   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 16:45
- - Slumberished   Adding further info:- 1. There is no information ...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 18:41
|- - The Slithy Tove   QUOTE (Slumberished @ Wed, 11 Jul 2018 ...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 20:13
|- - Slumberished   QUOTE I wonder if they even had a contract with th...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 20:27
- - bobthesod   Slumberished You haven't 'amended your or...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 18:57
- - Slumberished   QUOTE (bobthesod @ Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 19...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 19:01
- - kommando   Hit the report button and ask for assistance.   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 19:26
- - Redivi   Confirms our suspicions that the company is not th...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 19:59
- - Slumberished   QUOTE (Redivi @ Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 20...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 20:13
- - hhan   Hi, Situation as described by OP coming in the pos...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:05
- - hhan   Inserting the pictures of what I received.   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:26
|- - hhan   QUOTE (hhan @ Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 00...   Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:48
- - Redivi   Better idea - start your own thread with that titl...   Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 00:18


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