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"No loading" exemptions for specific types of goods
m7891
post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 17:50
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A road I use every morning has a section with double yellow lines on each side with associated "No Loading" restrictions from 8am-9.30am and again 4.30pm-6pm. The reasons for this are obvious - it's a busy road in both directions during the AM and PM peaks so it should be free of obstructions.

It's not uncommon though to be held up by a van delivering milk to a shop and a lorry delivering barrels to a pub across the street, both at the same time leaving only a single-vehicle width lane down the middle of the road. It happened today.

By chance after parking up this morning, I encountered a CEO further up the road. I figured there was nothing to lose asking him about the restriction. His answer was that certain vehicles have exemptions based on what they're delivering - so because milk is perishable, the driver can stop as close as he needs to the shop regardless of the restriction.

Does that sound right? I can't say I've ever heard of that before, and to me the more obvious answer is: make the delivery before 8am. It seems bizarre that a restriction can exist in order to keep traffic flowing, unless it happens to be milk that's being delivered. I'm also wondering why beer in barrels can be defined as "perishable".

I'm going to get a copy of the TRO to see if it's explicitly mentioned in there. But even if not, can a council still exercise discretion as to which vehicles are and aren't issued with a PCN?
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post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 17:57
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QUOTE (m7891 @ Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 17:50) *
But even if not, can a council still exercise discretion as to which vehicles are and aren't issued with a PCN?

A council always has a discretion not to enforce. Businesses can also apply for a parking dispensation.


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DastardlyDick
post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 19:27
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As cp says, all Councils can exercise discretion. In London, on Red Routes, various companies have a "memorandum of understanding" with TfL which allows them to stop on Double Red Lines to make deliveries.
Beer deliveries get exemptions because the barrels are heavy, glaziers do too, as do Cash in Transit vehicles.
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m7891
post Sun, 17 Feb 2019 - 13:10
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You learn something new every day.

It does seem odd, though, that an exemption would be granted to this particular restriction when it’s a time-limited one. Is it not more logical to say that if you want to deliver perishables, so do before 8am or after 9.30am? It kind of defeats the purpose of the time-limit otherwise.

Obviously if it were a 24hr restriction it would be different.
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post Sun, 17 Feb 2019 - 13:17
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QUOTE (m7891 @ Sun, 17 Feb 2019 - 13:10) *
You learn something new every day.

It does seem odd, though, that an exemption would be granted to this particular restriction when it’s a time-limited one. Is it not more logical to say that if you want to deliver perishables, so do before 8am or after 9.30am? It kind of defeats the purpose of the time-limit otherwise.

Obviously if it were a 24hr restriction it would be different.


Delivery only before or after a time would apply to many deliveries but a milk or beer wagon doing a round of deliveries might be hard pressed.
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post Sun, 17 Feb 2019 - 14:41
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As Dr Feelgood didn't quite say, "They didn't get him on milk and alcohol".

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