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emergencychimp
post Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 20:49
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So the driver got a parking charge in a residential car park in the time from leaving the car in a visitor space and going up to grab a parking permit from an outgoing tenant.

It seems this place is employing 'civilian' type attendants. No marked car, no uniform...

Anyway, of course a valid permit was in the possession of the driver.

My initial question is, do you send the appeal before the 28 days? I've read some people send it a couple of days prior. Or is the normal procedure to wait for NTK?





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- emergencychimp   Parking & Property Management Ltd. - Parking charge in residential car park   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 20:49
- - ostell   Yes, wait for the NTK. You were visiting an outgo...   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 21:53
- - emergencychimp   The tenant was moving out and the keys were being ...   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 21:56
- - ostell   Who was collectiong the keys? Estate agent, frien...   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 22:00
- - Eljayjay   You could try eservices.landregistry.gov.uk for th...   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 22:17
- - emergencychimp   Driver was collecting keys under instruction of ag...   Wed, 2 Aug 2017 - 22:42
- - nosferatu1001   ASsuming not a lease or hire car, wait for the NtK...   Thu, 3 Aug 2017 - 03:49
- - emergencychimp   Thanks. Not a lease or hire car, no. Will come b...   Thu, 3 Aug 2017 - 19:18
- - nosferatu1001   Get reading POFA schedule 4 para 8 in the meantime...   Fri, 4 Aug 2017 - 02:38
- - ostell   And ageny was acting under the instructions of the...   Fri, 4 Aug 2017 - 09:58
- - emergencychimp   This is a no question win surely as the notice to ...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 16:12
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (emergencychimp @ Sat, 5 Aug 2017 ...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 16:20
- - emergencychimp   Photo of the closest 'wordy' sign. I wa...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 17:14
- - Jlc   How long did it take to collect the permit?   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 17:19
- - emergencychimp   Under 10 minutes. Driver was parked where this wh...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 17:38
- - Lynnzer   So many ways to kill this, or at least to cause th...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 18:16
- - emergencychimp   Whilst I do not have access to the lease, I do kno...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 18:31
- - Jlc   The bottom line is that they will reject any appea...   Sat, 5 Aug 2017 - 18:38
- - emergencychimp   So NTK was received last week. Do I need to post ...   Mon, 21 Aug 2017 - 20:43
- - SchoolRunMum   Yep that's fine, then when they reject, do not...   Mon, 21 Aug 2017 - 21:16
- - emergencychimp   Appeal rejected. No surprise. I'm a bit conf...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 09:53
- - Jlc   They claim the vehicle did not have a permit for 1...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 10:42
- - emergencychimp   How relevant is it that there is no mention of a g...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 10:56
- - The Rookie   1/ Not at all relevant 2/ No, they aren't rel...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 11:25
- - emergencychimp   I'm not going to ask anyone to pay for anythin...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 11:41
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (emergencychimp @ Wed, 6 Sep 2017 ...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 12:41
- - emergencychimp   But they are capable of cancelling the PCN if they...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 12:55
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (emergencychimp @ Wed, 6 Sep 2017 ...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 13:15
- - nosferatu1001   Most IOC members don't allow keepers to appeal...   Wed, 6 Sep 2017 - 18:06
- - emergencychimp   So I got a nice little letter from the lovely bunc...   Sun, 19 Nov 2017 - 22:04
- - Jlc   You should follow PAP - the stuff you’ve said ab...   Sun, 19 Nov 2017 - 22:14
- - emergencychimp   Oh right. I grabbed that off another thread and m...   Sun, 19 Nov 2017 - 22:19
- - nosferatu1001   Pre action protocol. From 1st October they have t...   Mon, 20 Nov 2017 - 16:00
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Mon, 20 Nov 2017 ...   Mon, 20 Nov 2017 - 16:38
- - emergencychimp   I'm reading the thread on MSE and there is a l...   Thu, 30 Nov 2017 - 19:05
- - nosferatu1001   30 days is fine. Presumed to be 30 days from servi...   Fri, 1 Dec 2017 - 10:04
- - emergencychimp   Thanks. I've submitted a letter stating their...   Fri, 1 Dec 2017 - 14:52
- - emergencychimp   OK. So this was the letter I sent to Gladstones. ...   Thu, 14 Dec 2017 - 17:56
- - cabbyman   I think it is encumbent upon them to provide a com...   Thu, 14 Dec 2017 - 18:32
- - nosferatu1001   That was the massively short letter You need to r...   Thu, 14 Dec 2017 - 20:35
- - SchoolRunMum   And state that the sign at the bays, as shown in t...   Thu, 14 Dec 2017 - 21:20
- - emergencychimp   Thoughts on my reply anyone. Dear Mr Gladstones ...   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 20:21
- - Umkomaas   QUOTE Regards. emergencychimp Regards? That’s ...   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 21:38
- - nosferatu1001   3) is not true. They dint have to comply with pofa...   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 22:21
- - emergencychimp   QUOTE (Umkomaas @ Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 22...   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 22:27
- - nosferatu1001   It’s never worked like this. They can ask for ke...   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 - 22:41
- - Umkomaas   QUOTE Ha. I can be the bigger man here. Should I...   Fri, 22 Dec 2017 - 19:46
- - emergencychimp   Yes. Of course. I wouldn't actually do that....   Fri, 22 Dec 2017 - 23:15
- - emergencychimp   So, a development on this. Somewhat confusingly, ...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 12:20
- - Jlc   Yes but you’ll have to follow the court procedur...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 12:33
- - emergencychimp   I take it I need to tick the 'I intend to cont...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 12:50
- - ostell   No, only contest jurisdiction if you live in Scotl...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 12:52
- - emergencychimp   Ah. I see. I wish to counter claim for my time w...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 12:57
- - The Rookie   You would need more concrete grounds than that...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 13:00
- - Redivi   That "contest jurisdiction" box causes a...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 13:24
- - Jlc   Should you win then you can claim your costs but t...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 13:26
- - emergencychimp   I informed Gladstones the NTK did not comply with ...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 13:34
- - Jlc   Yes, but they will pursue the keeper under the pre...   Sat, 10 Mar 2018 - 13:37
- - emergencychimp   OK, so my acknowledgement of service is submitted....   Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 18:44
- - Eljayjay   I believe it is 28 + 2 days from 6 March which I m...   Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 23:48
- - ostell   The form will tell you which day is is assumed del...   Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 07:44
- - nosferatu1001   Total of 33 days for the court to RECEIVE the defe...   Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 11:00
- - emergencychimp   OK, here is the particulars of claim. To my untra...   Thu, 22 Mar 2018 - 16:52
- - nosferatu1001   Well apart: 1) no cause of action. What terms? Are...   Thu, 22 Mar 2018 - 17:05
- - Umkomaas   QUOTE NOtice they have 1080 characters and theyve ...   Fri, 23 Mar 2018 - 08:05
- - nosferatu1001   Characters, not words, is the measure here ABout...   Fri, 23 Mar 2018 - 10:07
- - emergencychimp   Draft defence. Thoughts? I wasn't sure to ad...   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 - 18:28
- - SchoolRunMum   You've copied some stuff that is VERY wordy, s...   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 - 19:58
- - emergencychimp   Thanks. I was unsure about some of the waffle but...   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 - 20:09
- - SchoolRunMum   Read this concise defence written by MSE poster Jo...   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 - 20:13
- - emergencychimp   It's a nice and concise defence for sure but c...   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 - 22:42
- - The Rookie   You don't need the statement of truth as its a...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 08:52
|- - bargepole   QUOTE (The Rookie @ Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 09...   Sat, 7 Apr 2018 - 08:05
- - emergencychimp   So do people recommend to go with the Johnersh def...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 13:59
- - Eljayjay   I often comment on residential parking cases, but ...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 14:37
- - emergencychimp   Indeed. This is my concern with the Jopson defenc...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 16:46
- - Eljayjay   You could obtain a copy of the lease from the Land...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 17:56
- - SchoolRunMum   Your defence does need signing & dating and co...   Fri, 6 Apr 2018 - 21:45
- - emergencychimp   OK. Thanks for confirming. I think I'll go w...   Sat, 7 Apr 2018 - 12:04
- - SchoolRunMum   You definitely need to use Jopson, so I would not ...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 00:36
- - Eljayjay   There may be all sorts of reasons as to why emerge...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 10:24
- - ostell   I think the comment made by the judge in the Jopso...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 11:25
- - Eljayjay   As already mentioned "Laura Jopson won her ca...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 12:43
- - nosferatu1001   It also points out that stopping unloading etc are...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 13:36
- - Eljayjay   nosferatu1001 I do not see how what you say can a...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 14:42
|- - emergencychimp   QUOTE (Eljayjay @ Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 15...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 16:08
- - kommando   And is a visitor to get a permit without first par...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 15:32
|- - SchoolRunMum   QUOTE (kommando @ Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 16...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 22:20
- - Eljayjay   I am not trying to dissuade you from defending the...   Sun, 8 Apr 2018 - 17:51
|- - emergencychimp   Sorry, I was busy yesterday and wasn't able to...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 12:12
- - nosferatu1001   "For example, I am very familiar with a block...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 09:43
- - Eljayjay   Sorry, I couldn't let nos's comments go. ...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 11:41
- - nosferatu1001   Your comment, which I quoted, was "The leases...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 12:17
- - Eljayjay   nos, What I actually said was "The leases ma...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 16:59
- - emergencychimp   I am currently working on getting a copy of the pa...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 17:15
- - Eljayjay   Insofar as the parking agreement and other documen...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 19:16
- - Eljayjay   The bit of Gladstones wording quoted by you is the...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 19:42
- - emergencychimp   Perfect. Thanks. Should I give them a time limit...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 19:46
- - SchoolRunMum   Solicitors can sign letters & forms with the f...   Mon, 9 Apr 2018 - 20:48
- - nosferatu1001   SImple covering letter, objecting to the hearing b...   Tue, 10 Apr 2018 - 10:00
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