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Bus lane chage notice Reading Minster Street, buss lane with no arks on the road
Parkingt
post Thu, 3 Jan 2019 - 22:08
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Hello

Thank you for reading
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I got bus lane charge notice in Reading the location is minster Street (Westbound)
I did attach both sides of the charge certificate
On this link here
https://parking.reading.gov.uk/TicketDetails.aspx
Just put
Vehicle Registration Number LO18ATF
Penalty Charge Notice RG88094253
And you will see the evidence: both on pictures and video you do not see any sing or marks saying bus lane

I did also find out about this website here https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-b...-night-13705554
Where many drives have been caught in this buss lane

If the penalty is fear I just pay it, but both pictures and video do seem very clear

Thank you very much in advance for your support

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post Thu, 3 Jan 2019 - 22:20
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Is this the first letter you've had from the council? You should have received a Penalty Charge Notice before receiving the charge certificate.


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post Thu, 3 Jan 2019 - 22:48
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cp8759 I did change address and this is what my previous landlord gave me today I do not know where the Penalty Charge Notice letter is
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 09:08
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QUOTE (Parkingt @ Thu, 3 Jan 2019 - 22:48) *
cp8759 I did change address and this is what my previous landlord gave me today I do not know where the Penalty Charge Notice letter is

You've been very lucky ! Far too many people move house, don't update their V5, then months later have bailiffs at the door demanding hundreds of pounds. You can't appeal a charge certificated, only pay it, or wait for the Order for Recovery, at which stage you can submit a Statutory Declaration that you didn't receive the PCN. This will be sent to your previous address so if you want to go down this route, you MUST make sure your previous landlord keeps your mail and passes it on to you. You also need to check regularly with the council, (at least weekly) if the OfR has been issued so you can look out for it.
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 10:08
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QUOTE (Incandescent @ Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 09:08) *
QUOTE (Parkingt @ Thu, 3 Jan 2019 - 22:48) *
cp8759 I did change address and this is what my previous landlord gave me today I do not know where the Penalty Charge Notice letter is

You've been very lucky ! Far too many people move house, don't update their V5, then months later have bailiffs at the door demanding hundreds of pounds. You can't appeal a charge certificated, only pay it, or wait for the Order for Recovery, at which stage you can submit a Statutory Declaration that you didn't receive the PCN. This will be sent to your previous address so if you want to go down this route, you MUST make sure your previous landlord keeps your mail and passes it on to you. You also need to check regularly with the council, (at least weekly) if the OfR has been issued so you can look out for it.

+1, you need to get the Order for Recovery and then file a statutory declaration, this will "reset" the PCN and we can then look at any possible challenges. However you need to make sure you don't miss the OfR, if you don't challenge it promptly you may lose your right to appeal.


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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 17:06
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I did send an email requesting an order to recover my PCN I am just waiting for a reply, however I have changed/updated my driving licence and V5C the 28th of November, and the issue date of the charge certificate is 2nd of January 2019, i do not know why i did not the get the charge certificate at my new address Thank you very much for your support
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 18:57
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If you move address you need to tell them. The council only get the address form DVLA at the start of the process, if you move half-way through they don't get notified of the new address just because you told DVLA.


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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 20:24
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Dear Reading Borough council

I have received this charge certificate n RG88094253
My number plate is LO18ATF
from my previous landlord

I did change my driving license and VC5 address on the 28/11/2018

I am kindly asking for an order to recover my PCN, and send it to my new address above

Thank you in advance for your attention

Yours faithfully

(My name surname)

and they only automatically replied in this way so far

Dear Mr (My Name Surname),

This is an email from the Reading Borough Council.

Thank you very much for sending an e-mail. Your e-mail is now being processed. An answer will be will be sent to you soon. Please note that any representations made outside the 28-day representation period may be disregarded by the Council.

Penalty Charge Notice : RG88094253

This message has been generated automatically. Please do not reply.
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is my email good enough?

Thank you very much again for your support

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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 20:39
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It doesn't matter if you do everything right and reading do everything wrong, if you miss the OfR it is messy FOR YOU. contact TEC ask has the PCN been registered, nothing more. keep doing so every week or so until it has been them if it does not come to you you can download the form and complete it.


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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 22:24
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I did find this email address tec@justice.gov.uk
on this website here below
https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/...ment-centre-tec
I will send an email to the email address above
is that correct?

Thank you very much again for your support
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 22:30
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QUOTE (Parkingt @ Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 22:24) *
I did find this email address tec@justice.gov.uk
on this website here below
https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/...ment-centre-tec
I will send an email to the email address above
is that correct?

Thank you very much again for your support


no phone them


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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:11
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my previous landlord has just told me that the postman did send the letter PCN back since he knows I do not live there anymore, is this possible?
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:36
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QUOTE (Parkingt @ Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:11) *
my previous landlord has just told me that the postman did send the letter PCN back since he knows I do not live there anymore, is this possible?

I doubt this very much unless the landlord physically handed it back to the postman and also saying you didn't live there anymore. The postman would have accepted it on a "not known at this address" basis. There may have been a return address on the envelope.
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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:49
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I wrote this 2nd email here below on the Reading Borough Council website, on my PCN details page

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Dear Reading Borough Council

My previous landlord just wrote me saying that the postman did send my original PCN back since he knows I do not live there anymore


So as a gesture of good will I would very kindly ask to recover my original PCN and send it to my new address here below:


XX Xxxx Xxxx
Xxxx Xxxx
Xxxx Xxxxxx
(City)
(Post code)

Thank you very much in advance for your support
Yours faithfully
(My Name and Surname)
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I am really hoping they send me again my original PCN

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post Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:49
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I am really hoping they send me again my original PCN

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QUOTE (Parkingt @ Fri, 4 Jan 2019 - 23:49) *
I am really hoping they send me again my original PCN

I'm afraid hope is not of much use when it comes to Reading Council, as they are one of the more venal and rapacious councils as threads on this forum have shown. Make sure you follow the process and don't ignore the Order for Recovery.
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post Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 13:53
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Thank you very much again
I am looking for some form of webpage in the Reading Borough ccouncil site but I can't dind any "Order of Recovery" page or form to fill in... thank you very much

Should I send a letter to them to ask for this Order of Recovery
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post Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:10
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No, just phone the TEC once a week to check if the debt has been registered.


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post Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:36
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You are involved in a statutory legal process. We know what needs be done to get you back to PCN stage. If you insist in going your own way, it might work, but experience tells us it wont and you end up out of time and bailiffs at your door


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post Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 16:00
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I am trying to contact TEC but they are open from Monday to Friday, i will try again Monday

I am really following every suggestion here the best I can, and I really Thank all of you for your great support and patience
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