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Old NIP in NYP Area B6451 Confirmed Wrong Location
ian505050
post Sun, 16 Sep 2018 - 14:58
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I have had several NIPs and Smart Motorway fines cancelled over the past few years due to irritating miss-identification of my vehicle and have had to spend many hours proving this. I am now doubting the validity of the only NIP that i have ever accepted originally 6 months ago and subsequently attended a speed awareness course.

Basically the attached NIP States i was on one road and the photos of the offence the police provided show the motorbike on a different section of the road.

I have attached the NIP stating the offence occurred on the B6451 North of A59 Junction.

I have attached Camera Images the police provided which show my motorcycle on the B6451 South of A59 Junction. (I know this to be correct as i can remember approaching the van) Also if you know the roads in the area its just possible to make out that the photos don't match the location stated in the NIP

North and South of a junction in the case are clearly something that cant be disputed by the policesurely, its something very simple and if this is incorrect regarding my NIP what other simple things could the officer have got wrong?

I assume its too late now i have paid and attended the speed awareness course to do anything about.

Any advice would be great.











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ian505050
post Thu, 29 Nov 2018 - 11:03
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So after waiting a month for a response from North Yorkshire Police I received the following email to my delight. I am surprised that i have been able to reverse a NIP without having to take the police to court (if that's what i would have had to do)

I am happy I have my 85 quid back but my major relief is that i have the cushion of a speed awareness course before i receive points should i actually speed in the future.

I just wonder where i stand with regards to 1 days lost wage due to having to attend the speed awareness course. Is there a procedure i can follow to make a claim for this?

That's now 5 out 5 driving offences i have been accused of that have now been reversed in the past 18 months. I have fitted a dash cam (to my car) with a huge memory card that covers approximately my last 14 days worth of driving so hopefully in the future my dash cam will protect me against any more false allegations made by the police.

Its quite worrying how many false motoring offence accusations are made by the police without providing evidence. I always assumed i was innocent until proved guilty but it seems with motoring offences i am assumed guilty until i can prove i am innocent which is obviously a very difficult task as the North Yorkshire Police withhold evidence when submitting NIPs.




From: XXXXXXXXXX@northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk>
Sent: 28 November 2018 16:17
To: 'XXXXXXXXXX'
Subject: RE: Ref:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Mr XXXXXXX,

Apologies for the delayed response.

I can confirm that I have processed a request to refund the course you have attended and for the record to be removed.

You will therefore be able to attend a Speed Awareness Course in the future if further offences are committed and you are found eligible for one.

You should receive your refund in due course.

I can only apologise for any inconvenience caused by this.



XXXXXXXXX

Collar Number XXXXX

Traffic Bureau Team Leader

Traffic Bureau

North Yorkshire Police


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post Thu, 29 Nov 2018 - 13:51
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They’ve reimbursed you and reset the clock, time to move on, you’re not realisticly going to get any compensation for the time, and definitely not without a court case (with its expense and time).


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