PCN in Westminster but parking suspension signage not clear |
PCN in Westminster but parking suspension signage not clear |
Tue, 25 Sep 2018 - 23:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 8 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,735 |
Husband parked in middle bay of a '9 bay' pay and display section. There are 3 'pay and display' street signs. One at either end (labelled 1 and 2) and one in middle (labelled 3). The one in the middle had no parking suspension signage only the 2 end ones. He assumed therefore where he parked under this sign it was ok.
He was given a PCN (as were all the other cars on either side of his). I went back a couple of days later to take full photos and one can clearly see how anyone parking in the middle next to the 'pay and display sign' with no suspension notice, would assume the bays were available. Question is can I contest this as not all pay and display signs had suspension notices and it was totally misleading. This post has been edited by caswest: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 - 23:06 |
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Tue, 25 Sep 2018 - 23:02
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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 07:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Post the council's pics. You should find them on Westminster's site. Also the PCN.
Use a site such as https://imgbb.com On the face of it, you are entitled to rely on an unsuspended sign next to your car and if this is the case I would expect Westminster to cancel the PCN. |
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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 14:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 8 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,735 |
Thanks
Below are some links to council photos This post has been edited by caswest: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 15:03 |
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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 15:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 8 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,735 |
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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 15:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
PCN?
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Wed, 26 Sep 2018 - 17:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
post a GSV and mark the position of the sign in photo 1 the sign in photo 3 and your car
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Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 07:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 8 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,735 |
PCN? post a GSV and mark the position of the sign in photo 1 the sign in photo 3 and your car Sign 1 and sign 2 at either end of bays had suspension notices. Sign 3 in the middle of bays had no suspension notice. Red square shows location where the car was parked, in the middle directly under sign 3 with no suspension sign |
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Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 08:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Well this looks straightforward. We have a confirmed PCN for suspension and no suspension sign on the bay sign by the car, as taken by the CEO, who must surely have realised this was wrong. In the challenge I would ask Westminster to confirm with the CEO that there was an unsuspended sign by the car.
It is possible that the suspension sign had dropped to the pavement but it must be visible. This post has been edited by stamfordman: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 08:28 |
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Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 09:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 8 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,735 |
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Westminster have cancelled PCN on basis of bad signage
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Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 09:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Well done. Nice to see it was straightforward - Westminster has been a more reasonable authority in the past few years.
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