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Pianolegs
post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:18
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Hello,

I've been snapped doing 81 in a 70 (apparrently, it's possible but unlikely I feel) by a mobile camera van. Reading the calibration certificate for the camera used the details are:
Calibrated 1st October 2018 by Lasertec Centre in Warwick.
Camer is a LTI 20-20 UltraLyte 1000
and Lastec Concept 11 video system

I read on here that some of the cameras are not calibrated correctly and some don't conform to the requirements. The different possibilities are complex so can I ask, is there any chance that either of these things might apply here?

Thanks,
Ian

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post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:27
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Assuming annual calibration is required on the equipment then it is in date as the October 2018 date would be when it was last calibrated and not when the calibration expired.
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post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:27
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No.
Yearly calibration is normal and even if it was out of calibration it doesn't, of itself, provide a defence.

For clarity a NIP is a notice, of itself it is neither enforceable nor unenforceable!

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post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:29
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Thank you Chaps. Apologies, but I just realised what a dumb question that was so reworded the original having done a bit more research on here.

Thanks.
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post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:30
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A NIP is not enforceable or unenforceable. It is simply a Notice saying a prosecution is being considered. If you mean would the (in your view) deficient or possibly faulty calibration make a prosecution likely to fail the answer is no. You will have to show that the device cannot be relied upon to show you exceeded the speed limit. Part of your case might be that it had not been properly calibrated but that alone would not see you through. As you mention, it is a complex issue which you would almost certainly not be able to tackle without expert advice. If the prosecution has to enlist its own experts to counter your claim you will pay (quite heftily) for their costs in the event you are convicted.

You should be offered a Speed Awareness Course for that speed (provided the offence did not take place in Scotland and that you have not done one for an offence that occurred in the last three years). If you don't fancy that a Fixed Penalty of £100 and three points will be offered. If you fanny about asking for evidence of calibration or question the accuracy of the device those offers will not be made.

Make sure you respond by providing the driver's details within the 28 days allowed or you commit a separate, more serious offence.

[Edited to take account of the OP's changes]

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post Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:56
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Mon, 20 May 2019 - 13:30) *
A NIP is not enforceable or unenforceable. It is simply a Notice saying a prosecution is being considered. If you mean would the (in your view) deficient or possibly faulty calibration make a prosecution likely to fail the answer is no. You will have to show that the device cannot be relied upon to show you exceeded the speed limit. Part of your case might be that it had not been properly calibrated but that alone would not see you through. As you mention, it is a complex issue which you would almost certainly not be able to tackle without expert advice. If the prosecution has to enlist its own experts to counter your claim you will pay (quite heftily) for their costs in the event you are convicted.

You should be offered a Speed Awareness Course for that speed (provided the offence did not take place in Scotland and that you have not done one for an offence that occurred in the last three years). If you don't fancy that a Fixed Penalty of £100 and three points will be offered. If you fanny about asking for evidence of calibration or question the accuracy of the device those offers will not be made.

Make sure you respond by providing the driver's details within the 28 days allowed or you commit a separate, more serious offence.

[Edited to take account of the OP's changes]

Thanks. I thought it would probably be something like that. Had to ask.

Much appreciated.
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