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PPN - Kirkstall Forge railway station car park (Leeds) - Northern Rail
Gavin Fernandes
post Thu, 13 Feb 2020 - 15:30
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Hi...

The driver lives in Leeds and catches the train from Kirkstall Forge to city centre everyday. The driver parks in the railway station car park that is designated for railway users.
On 12.02.2020, when the driver arrived in the car park all of the parking bays were full. In between some of the car parking bays there is a grass section (see pic showing car parked on grass section in between bays).

The driver has seen other cars parked on this grass section before. However, when the driver got back to their car they were greeted with a PCN.

The driver has also taken a pic of the parking sign showing the regulations.










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The Rookie
post Mon, 2 Mar 2020 - 09:43
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1/ Put it on the letter, they will likely use it which is just one more nail in any PoFA coffin that may be needed.

2/ Signed by the named keeper. the registered keeper does nothing. (they are two different things).


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Gavin Fernandes
post Wed, 4 Mar 2020 - 19:12
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Should the name of the keeper and signature also go on the letter?
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nosferatu1001
post Thu, 5 Mar 2020 - 07:51
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Sig - just a squiggle. Yes you put the name of the keeper.
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Gavin Fernandes
post Fri, 6 Mar 2020 - 10:34
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Thanks for all your help everyone. I sent the letter today.
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Gavin Fernandes
post Wed, 18 Mar 2020 - 23:37
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Hi,

So the below reply was received. Any advice:


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The Rookie
post Thu, 19 Mar 2020 - 07:32
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I'd now write and ask them to confirm that as they will only accept appeals from the driver, that they will not therefore be progressing any claim against the keeper.

If they do intend to continue to progress with any claim against the keeper and not only against the driver, then in accordance with the overriding objectives of the 'PRE-ACTION CONDUCT AND PROTOCOLS' laid out in the civil procedure rules they must consider the appeal from the keeper and try and narrow the issues in dispute.

Throw lots of Mud,
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure...-action_conduct

Obviously this is always done 2-3 weeks after each reply so as to spin the matter out.

See what others think.

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Gavin Fernandes
post Thu, 19 Mar 2020 - 17:02
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Thank you.

Any one else with any advice?
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Lynnzer
post Thu, 19 Mar 2020 - 19:55
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QUOTE (Gavin Fernandes @ Thu, 19 Mar 2020 - 17:02) *
Thank you.

Any one else with any advice?

Tell them that as they have sent the correspondence to you as the registered keeper you have responded accordingly. Failure by them to consider your very obvious points of law is too dismissive. If they do wish to ask the driver to make the appeal, tell them to find out who it is and write to them but you will not be naming who it may have been, nor is there any legal obligation to do so


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The Rookie
post Thu, 19 Mar 2020 - 19:57
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Erm, it was a windscreen ticket, nothing sent to the registered keeper.


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