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will2911
post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 20:39
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I was on a dual carriageway way A road earlier, which has been put down to 40mph due to road works, my speedometer was showing 52-55mph, I know I shouldn't have been doing it.....

On the opposite side of the dual carriageway is a pavement which had a speed van on it, from research the camera is in the side of the van. I only noticed it late, and tried to slow, but not sure if I slowed in time.

Both sides of the road were busy, however I was in lane 2 when I passed, which would be nearer the van.

I am not sure if it can get both sides of the carriageway where it was, or if the operator could only get his side, as such.


Another point is that when I went back a few hours later the same van had been moved to cover the opposite carriageway, the one I had driven on earlier, to me this implies that it only covers one half of the dual carriageway at a time, would that be a fairly safe bet? Meaning it wouldn't have picked me up earlier on?

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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 20:52
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Only a 14 day wait will answer your question if you are the registered keeper.


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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 20:54
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Oh okay. If I have been caught, am I looking at FPN or court?

I have a clean license held for 11 years, had 3 points back in 2012 but they are long since expired
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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 20:59
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For a recorded speed upto 53mph, a course, above that a fixed penalty (3pts and £100). Court only for over 65mph.


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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 22:08
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It may have caught you long before you spotted the van: these speedmeters have a range of about 1 km.
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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 22:19
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QUOTE (666 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 23:08) *
It may have caught you long before you spotted the van: these speedmeters have a range of about 1 km.


But my thinking is, why did they move it a few hours later to the exact same position on the opposite carriageway, it's as if they wanted to look at t traffic on the westbound side as well as the east, as they moved it a few hours later
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post Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 22:45
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QUOTE (will2911 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 23:19) *
QUOTE (666 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 23:08) *
It may have caught you long before you spotted the van: these speedmeters have a range of about 1 km.
But my thinking is, why did they move it a few hours later to the exact same position on the opposite carriageway, it's as if they wanted to look at t traffic on the westbound side as well as the east, as they moved it a few hours later


Perhaps they wanted to get out of the sun, or be pointed in the right direction to get back quicker at the end of their shift, no one can tell you whether you have been caught or not, you are just going to have to wait.



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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 07:38
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QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 23:45) *
...to get back quicker at the end of their shift

So they don't have to speed? laugh.gif


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 13:09
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QUOTE (will2911 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 22:19) *
QUOTE (666 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 23:08) *
It may have caught you long before you spotted the van: these speedmeters have a range of about 1 km.


But my thinking is, why did they move it a few hours later to the exact same position on the opposite carriageway, it's as if they wanted to look at t traffic on the westbound side as well as the east, as they moved it a few hours later



Generally, the vans remain at one location for a limited time because that location soon becomes known. If the camera has a clear line of sight it can record in both directions.
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post Tue, 4 Aug 2020 - 15:12
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QUOTE (will2911 @ Thu, 30 Jul 2020 - 21:39) *
I was on a dual carriageway way A road earlier, which has been put down to 40mph due to road works, my speedometer was showing 52-55mph, I know I shouldn't have been doing it.....

On the opposite side of the dual carriageway is a pavement which had a speed van on it, from research the camera is in the side of the van. I only noticed it late, and tried to slow, but not sure if I slowed in time.

Both sides of the road were busy, however I was in lane 2 when I passed, which would be nearer the van.

I am not sure if it can get both sides of the carriageway where it was, or if the operator could only get his side, as such.


Another point is that when I went back a few hours later the same van had been moved to cover the opposite carriageway, the one I had driven on earlier, to me this implies that it only covers one half of the dual carriageway at a time, would that be a fairly safe bet? Meaning it wouldn't have picked me up earlier on?

Thanks


Same thing happened to me just before lockdown on the M40. The bastards were sat on the opposite side of the bridge but facing me so that they can catch people coming round the bend.

You will be caught unfortunately because they can focus on whatever they want within a distance of a mile on either side. It takes literally seconds to do unless you are very lucky and they are having a coffee and doughnut break. You will possibly get a speed awareness course for it though because it’s within the threshold. That means no points, no fine and don’t even have to tell your insurance company so they can’t shaft you out of more money.

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post Tue, 4 Aug 2020 - 15:46
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QUOTE (mc444 @ Tue, 4 Aug 2020 - 16:12) *
You will be caught


That's very definite!

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Unless they ask about it, obviously.


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post Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 13:09
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I would like to say that today is day 14. The postman has been and gone and no NIP.

So hopefully I am in the clear.

However from now on I will be sticking firmly to the limit.

Can't go through that again
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post Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 16:02
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QUOTE (will2911 @ Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 14:09) *
I would like to say that today is day 14. The postman has been and gone and no NIP.

So hopefully I am in the clear.

However from now on I will be sticking firmly to the limit.

Can't go through that again

See post #2.

If you're the RK then you're OK. Otherwise, it could take weeks.
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will2911
post Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 16:55
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QUOTE (666 @ Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 17:02) *
QUOTE (will2911 @ Thu, 13 Aug 2020 - 14:09) *
I would like to say that today is day 14. The postman has been and gone and no NIP.

So hopefully I am in the clear.

However from now on I will be sticking firmly to the limit.

Can't go through that again

See post #2.

If you're the RK then you're OK. Otherwise, it could take weeks.


Nope, I'm the RK and have been since 2018!
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