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Arsi
post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 18:11
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I'm in for hardluck nowadays. Got a parking notice yesterday while I went to fetch change for machine.

Today whilst on way back home, I was flashed by a camera on a single carriageway with a clearly mentioned speed limit of 50mph. I am damn sure I wasn't overspeeding (worst case scenario would be 51mph or 52mph). Now I have read somewhere that the 50mph cameras usually flash when you go above 57mph.

My questions:
1. Is it possible for a camera to be faulty?
2. When a pic is snapped by a camera, is it actually veiwed and confirmed by some authority (human) or just automatically sent as a ticket to home address without a review?
3. Is receiving a NIP the only way to know you have been fined or is there a way to check this online early on somehow?
4. If you recieve a ticket, is it possible and advisable to demand a photographic proof from the concerned authority?

I have received licence only in September 2018 but I am a very careful driver and don't ever overspeed. Please advise as this has been driving me mad dry.gif

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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 18:34
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1. Possibly, but unlikely

3. Receiving a NIP does not indicate you have been fined. It is usually accompanied by a “Request for Driver’s identity”. Until this has been completed nobody can face any action for speeding.

4. You are not entitled to any evidence – photographic or otherwise – unless and until the matter proceeds to court. The best you can get if you want to accept an offer of a course or fixed penalty is photographs “to help identify the driver”. These do not usually help in doing so.
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Arsi
post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 18:59
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Thank you for replying.

For question number four, I have found this after some homework. Do you think its any use? (Photo uploaded)


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P.s. i dont know why it won't upload dry.gif

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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 19:47
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Perhaps you could describe what you've found.
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Arsi
post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 20:09
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 19:47) *
Perhaps you could describe what you've found.


I'll copy/paste

Welcome to the Greater Manchester Police Public Access System

The aim of these pages is to provide you with information about an alleged offence(s) and will allow you to view material relevant to that offence(s).
You will be able to view certain information once you have logged in using your unique 5 or 6 digit PIN (Personal Identification Number), and confirmed that you have read and accepted the Terms and Conditions.

This information includes,

Viewing your photographic evidence
Details of the camera/device used to detect the alleged offence and the relevant calibration certificate
The facility to Nominate another driver online
Instructions on how to complete the Request for Driver Information
Locations of Camera Sites
Answers to regularly asked questions
Links to the Drivesafe main website and also of other partners and related organisations
If you have received a Notice of Intention to Prosecute/Section 172 request for information you may use this system to view photographs and other details of the alleged offence.
To do this click the button below and enter the information requested.

Click here to log on
Privacy and cookies


Source https://www.gmppas.co.uk/PAWeb/Portal/Portalish.aspx
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 20:25
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That won't really help with the four questions you have asked.
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 21:06
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Were you in the GMP area?

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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 21:50
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 21:06) *
Were you in the GMP area?



Yep, Stockport.



I'm not sure but it could have flashed someone on the opposite lane.

As on the link below I was travelling in same direction but the left lane at around 50mph and was flashed from the front. Do these flash from front to pick up speeders or snap rear pic?

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/street...970245870798095

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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:01
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Sorry couldn't upload the pic due to some issue. In relation to what I mentioned above, this was the exact place and those cameras.

https://imgur.com/a/MkyFyDQ
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:15
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And yes ofcourse, I was way behind those road markings when it flashed from front. Doesn't make sense but I would let the experts talk tongue.gif
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:28
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 20:25) *
That won't really help with the four questions you have asked.


Oh well mellow.gif
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:40
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Rear snap - if one flashed your front then it was the other side of the road...


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:59
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QUOTE (Jlc @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:40) *
Rear snap - if one flashed your front then it was the other side of the road...


Indeed.

OP - you said you were on a single carriageway, but the picture shows a dual carriageway.

If you were on the latter, then any frontal flash was aimed at the rear of someone on the other carriageway.
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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 00:16
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There is no point in worrying unless you receive a ticket. Some cameras have dummy units set to flash at exactly over the speed limit.

No ticket = no recorded offence.
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Arsi
post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 20:36
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QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:59) *
QUOTE (Jlc @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 22:40) *
Rear snap - if one flashed your front then it was the other side of the road...


Indeed.

OP - you said you were on a single carriageway, but the picture shows a dual carriageway.

If you were on the latter, then any frontal flash was aimed at the rear of someone on the other carriageway.


Sorry I was wrong about carriageway but thanks to everyone I feel more reassured now rolleyes.gif
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