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biffa6
post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 08:30
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - September 2022
Date of the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 13 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M1 Motorway between inc 13 & 12 Southbound
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Variable speed limit 50 mph - speed 58MPH (this is not applicable for Red Light / lane closure offences)
Time into Red 0 seconds


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 08:42
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Does anyone know what it means by

Time into Red 0 seconds?
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The Rookie
post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 08:44
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As you're accused of speeding the time into red is generated and listed but not relevant, it's a common misunderstanding.

No it's not going to get you off the speeding allegation. That speed will qualify you for an awareness course so circa 3 hours of your time and about £90 in fees, no points.

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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 08:50
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Thanks for the Reply The Rookie.

I thought as much - im still trying to access their photo evidence as im pretty good with the variable limits as a rule - as they seem to be the ones that get me !!

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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 09:25
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QUOTE (biffa6 @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 09:50) *
Thanks for the Reply The Rookie.

I thought as much - im still trying to access their photo evidence as im pretty good with the variable limits as a rule - as they seem to be the ones that get me !!

cheers


When was the last time you were caught speeding? and what was the outcome as this could impact on whether or not you are offered a speed awareness course.
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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 14:11
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QUOTE (Newbie David @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 10:25) *
When was the last time you were caught speeding? and what was the outcome as this could impact on whether or not you are offered a speed awareness course.


But only if you did a speed awareness course for an offence within 3 years of this one.


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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 14:41
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QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 15:11) *
QUOTE (Newbie David @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 10:25) *
When was the last time you were caught speeding? and what was the outcome as this could impact on whether or not you are offered a speed awareness course.


But only if you did a speed awareness course for an offence within 3 years of this one.


Hence the reason for my asking what the outcome was if they had previously been caught.
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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 14:54
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QUOTE (biffa6 @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 09:42) *
Does anyone know what it means by

Time into Red 0 seconds?



It's for passing red traffic light offences and doesn't apply to a speeding offence
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post Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 16:47
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QUOTE (Newbie David @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 15:41) *
QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 15:11) *
QUOTE (Newbie David @ Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 10:25) *
When was the last time you were caught speeding? and what was the outcome as this could impact on whether or not you are offered a speed awareness course.


But only if you did a speed awareness course for an offence within 3 years of this one.


Hence the reason for my asking what the outcome was if they had previously been caught.


Yes, but some people are under a misapprehension that other outcomes may affect whether they get offered a course, eg "I won't get offered a course as I have 6 points" so it is better to ask specifically whether they have done a course for an offence within the last 3 years than a generalised question. I am not trying to score a point, just offering advice based on experience.


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