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BigRed123
post Fri, 13 Apr 2018 - 08:34
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Morning all,

I recently got a NIP notice from the police, however it doesnt state what speed i was doing in the offence section all it says is Excess Speed 70MPH.

i believe it was an unmarked police car that clocked me as i remember one being behind me for sometime when i was doing around 76mph.

The date was also wrong on the offence as it stated it happened on a day that does not exist. (wrong number for day)

Can anyone help? its the Excess Speed 70MPH i dont get, why not write the speed down?

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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 15:38
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Hi Guys,

me again...

i was contacted by said officer to tell me he had put the wrong date... (must have been a slow day) anyway, he rang me to say the date was incorrect on the form, however he didnt say he was going to send me a corrected form and i havent had one yet, the offence date will be 2 weeks on saturday.

If i dont get an updated letter what should i do?

(they had my mobile number on system because i had contacted them before)

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post Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 17:19
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QUOTE (BigRed123 @ Tue, 17 Apr 2018 - 16:38) *
If i dont get an updated letter what should i do?

Do what Redivi said in post 14.


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BigRed123
post Tue, 24 Apr 2018 - 08:13
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Fri, 13 Apr 2018 - 12:04) *
Write "See attached" on A COPY of the form and staple a brief letter to it

If it was parked :

The vehicle was not at the location on 8th April
At the time of the allegation it was parked at....


If it wasn't parked :

The driver of the vehicle at the time was .......
It was not, however, at the location on this date


Don't mention the 7th

Keep a copy of what you send and ask for a certificate of posting from the Post Office


Hi All,

I am currently writing this letter, do i still need to put my details on the s172 form? or shall i just copy it and send it back with this letter? Also shall i put the day as in Sunday 8th April?

Ta
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post Tue, 24 Apr 2018 - 11:07
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No, ignore the day just use the number.

Return a copy of the form with the words “see attached”

Keep the original safe

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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 08:44
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Update

Morning all,

Yesterday i received a letter back stating that the original letter had a typo and the date was infact Saturday 7th April, he had also put down that he told me this in a telephone conversation as previously stated.

i now have a NIP noticed dated 29th April with the offence taking place on the 7th April, can i do anything else now or does the driver have to put their hands up?

Ta
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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 10:14
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The driver will now have to be nominated but could still use a late NIP defence on the basis the first NIP was defective (so a nullity) and this is late.


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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 10:34
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 3 May 2018 - 11:14) *
The driver will now have to be nominated but could still use a late NIP defence on the basis the first NIP was defective (so a nullity) and this is late.



Hi Rookie,

What would you recommend we should do now? Just Reply to the s172?
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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 11:06
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The driver identity needs to be provided. The s172 request is not nullified by an 'invalid' NIP.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 11:11
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So just to clarify, the drivers details must be filled in and sent off on the s172 and wait to see what they receive?

Ta
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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 11:38
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QUOTE (BigRed123 @ Thu, 3 May 2018 - 12:11) *
So just to clarify, the drivers details must be filled in and sent off on the s172 and wait to see what they receive?

Ta


Correct.


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BigRed123
post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 11:43
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Okay, thanks for your help with this.

So even though the NIP is dated 3 weeks after the offence occurred, i cannot do anything about this?

i will send off this s172 and await a response.

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post Thu, 3 May 2018 - 12:04
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After the driver is nominated they will progress as 'normal'. That will be by offering a course or fixed penalty.

You can point out to them that a valid NIP was not served within the stipulated time and they may simply cancel or they may say that the matter would have to go to court. After receiving the offer(s), there's no risk on attempting the former approach to see if they will rescind.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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