PCN code 12R, Threads merged |
PCN code 12R, Threads merged |
Tue, 3 May 2016 - 09:54
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Hello to all,
Some advice would be greatly appreciated on this matter please. I received a PCN from the council with code 12R on 04/03/16. I challenged the penalty by email on 15/03/16 asking for consideration as I did have a ticket but I mistakenly scratched the wrong month on the weekly visitor permit. I scratched February instead of March. I also provided the council with the 5 previous weekly visitor permits, hence they could see that I had valid permits on those dates and I was not trying to pull a fast one by using the same permit twice. I appealed to their good nature as at the time of scratching the ticket I was dealing with my autistic child who was unsettled. I received an email confirmation stating that they will respond within 10 working days. However, the council responded by mail over a month later (letter is dated 18/04/16) and denied my appeal. They gave me the option of paying the amount of £65 within 14 days of the letter after which case the penalty will revert to the full amount of £130. Do I have a positive chance of contesting this PCN after the issue of the notice to owner? Please kindly help as a cannot afford this fine. Thank you |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 11:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Poboskie.
I'm trying to write something for you. I need you to check a detail - date and time you actually filed your OOT application ? Form says 22/6/17 - please check your e-mail record of sending. -- btw - also; has everything always gone to TEC by e-mail? Thanks must go to you NB for this new procedure coming to light. No, I think it was found by 'Bogsy' here a few weeks ago. The bottom line though is that it appears to be the case that by ticking box number 2, the local authority are not under an obligation to automatically refer the case to the adjudicator. Again, it has no bearing on this case. There is no evidence the new procedures played a part in Lewisham's unlawful action: They simply believe that box 1 was ticked and not box 2. It's in their SoT. This post has been edited by Neil B: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 11:04 -------------------- |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 11:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
In fact, poboskie here has pre-empted co-operation, unknowingly but helpfully sending in a copy of their
reps on 4/11/16 in an attempt to resolve. Vaguely in line with the purpose of those new procedures. Despite being helpful, again not directly relevant to outcome as Lewisham subsequently walked down a different path. -------------------- |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 12:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
Yes the OOT application was sent via email on 22/06/17 at 11:59am
Yes, everything as gone to TEC via email. But I had a conversation with them over the phone to get clarification on why my WS was not accepted. I rushed to send the OOT asTEC had advised it needed to be received before 12pm to stop the bailiffs. This post has been edited by poboskie: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 13:37 |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 13:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
I rushed to send the OOT lol; I've just written that! So, you have decided to proceed? -------------------- |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 13:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 13:44
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pm coming. -------------------- |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 14:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 19:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
pm coming. Replied to pm And have e-mailed a couple of times. -------------------- |
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Sat, 12 Aug 2017 - 22:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
pm coming. Replied to pm And have e-mailed a couple of times. Are you going to respond? I NEED your input. -------------------- |
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Sat, 9 Sep 2017 - 11:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
I'm hearing, subject to seeing the Order -
KABOOOOOOM !! -------------------- |
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Mon, 11 Sep 2017 - 09:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
I'm hearing, subject to seeing the Order - KABOOOOOOM !! Indeed Yay, Yay, Yay. Thank you to all who have help in this matter. I was against time to file the N244 but with the extensive help from Neil B, it was sent on time despite several setbacks from TEC. I received the order at the weekend, in my favour, which I will shortly attach to this thread. Again, thank you all for your help and a special thank yo to Neil B. I really cannot thank you enough. This post has been edited by poboskie: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 - 05:08 |
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Mon, 11 Sep 2017 - 10:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
I have attached the Order to Flickr.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153515074@N07/ It's the first pic. It is not posting here for some reason. |
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Mon, 11 Sep 2017 - 10:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
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Mon, 11 Sep 2017 - 11:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
I'm frequently confused by the wording of the various Orders made by TEC.
If I recall, your final TE9 was made on the basis 'reps made, no reply'. (although 'no pcn' also applied.) The Council would be wise to drop this now, considering their wholly unlawful action ignoring the first TEC Order. I suggest we see what transpires - couple of weeks. Maybe we'll write to confirm dead - but I have no time right now. Let's chill a while. -------------------- |
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Sat, 13 Jan 2018 - 09:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,268 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Bump.
Update coming from OP. -------------------- |
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Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 15:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,775 |
My sincere apologies. Due to medical reasons for many months, I have been unable to update this threat in time.
Lewisham council has cancelled the PCN and 2 further PCNs that I had appealed but had no relation to this one. They were probably doing some damage control after making such a mess in the dealing of my OOT application. |
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