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[NIP Wizard] NIP, 83 mph on M23
joliet
post Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 10:53
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - April 2019
Date of the NIP: - 80 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 82 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M23, J10a, Balcombe Road overbridge, Crawley
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - It is my wife's company car that is leased by her company
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was speeding because I was late. OK, it's not a defence. But I'm curious as to why I haven't been offered a speed awareness course. I did go on one before but that was more than ten years ago.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - No
As you were not responsible for the vehicle, somebody else has named you as the driver. Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 10:53:20 +0000
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post Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 11:12
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What was the speed limit at the time?

The reason may be that 4 months have already elapsed since the alleged offence, which is normally the point where courses stop being offered.
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post Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 11:19
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Probably because of the time since the offence, a prosecution for a speeding offence has to be commenced within 6 months, so some time in October in your case. That could well be less than 2 months which is the minimum time often used by the police. The nomination has presumably gone through a chain of a lease company, your wife's company and your wife before you were named. As everybody has 28 days to respond the delay can build up, it is not your fault but that is the way things have turned out.


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joliet
post Wed, 21 Aug 2019 - 16:56
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Thank you both for your replies.

The speed limit was 70 mph.

Yes, four months would have elapsed about a week and a half after they sent me the NIP.

Ah well, I guess I'll be more careful from now on.
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