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fundador
post Sun, 3 Mar 2019 - 12:15
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Hello

Whilst traveling to the alps I overtook an unmarked car. He showed his blue light. I slowed down and he passed me.
I’ve since received Violation Notice.
The fine is 90 Euros, increasing to 135Eurosthen again to 375 Euros.
They spelled my surname wrong by using 1 incorrect letter.
Is enforceable please?
What are the consequences of ignoring it? Eg return visits to France

Thanks in advance.
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post Fri, 15 Mar 2019 - 11:19
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Thu, 14 Mar 2019 - 19:39) *
QUOTE (baroudeur @ Thu, 14 Mar 2019 - 16:33) *
QUOTE (sarahg1969 @ Thu, 14 Mar 2019 - 13:40) *
Judging by comments on other forums, the French authorities have done some kind of bulk data request to the DVLA. We've just received one this morning.

Violation notice date 28/2/19
Date of offence: 27/8/18
86kph in an 80 limit

I'm trying to do some research to find out if they are subject to any time limits, but don't want to be stopped when we drive back to France in 3 weeks sad.gif


The penalty will increase if not paid and eventually go up to the maximum of €450. With still no payment the matter will go before a court and the penalty confirmed as an outstanding debt. This could be 12 months down the line. Your details will have been placed on a ghost record when the first Avis de Contravention was issued on 27/08/18

The way the French margin of tolerance works indicates that you were caught at 91kph which was reduced by 5kph to the 'vitesse retenue' 86kph for processing the penalty.

Well, someone was caught at 91kph... sarahg1969 has not said who was driving at the time.

How does France deal with the RK being possibly different than the driver? It would be useful to see the (redacted) documents, but the OP needs to start a new thread.

--Churchmouse


In France, the 'registered keeper can name the driver if they were not driving. Failing to nominate another person leaves the RK liable for the penalty. There is no FTP in France for private individuals but, since January 2017 companies and hirers have to nominate the driver of their vehicles. Prior to that they could pay the fine without nominating the driver.

Specimen penalty notice here

Avis de Contravention

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post Wed, 20 Mar 2019 - 07:44
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As posted in the other French speeding thread.

You can pay or contest a fine online, and all in English too!

https://www.antai.gouv.fr/?lang=en

This might be an opportunity to remind folk that over a year ago the limit in France was reduced from 90 to 80 on all roads where there is no physical barrier between opposing carriageways.

I'm told that some roads have yet to have their previous 90 signs replaced with 80's but that does not absolve you from exceeding 80.

Unfortunately (but not surprisingly) as a tactic to reduce road deaths it's failed as they are actually up 4% in the first 3 months of this year compared to 2018!

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post Wed, 20 Mar 2019 - 14:38
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QUOTE (4x4x4 @ Wed, 20 Mar 2019 - 07:44) *
As posted in the other French speeding thread.

You can pay or contest a fine online, and all in English too!

https://www.antai.gouv.fr/?lang=en

This might be an opportunity to remind folk that over a year ago the limit in France was reduced from 90 to 80 on all roads where there is no physical barrier between opposing carriageways.

I'm told that some roads have yet to have their previous 90 signs replaced with 80's but that does not absolve you from exceeding 80.

Unfortunately (but not surprisingly) as a tactic to reduce road deaths it's failed as they are actually up 4% in the first 3 months of this year compared to 2018!


There was never a general requirement for 90kph signs as it was the default limit on single carriageway roads. The reduction to 80 kph retains the default status for which no signs are required

Where there are three lane section with two lanes in one direction (crénau de dépassement) 90kph is the default limit on the two lane section. Where these are considered especially dangerous 80kph can be imposed and signs are required.

Good description of speed limits HERE

From the link above


"Tthe State Council told the government that there was no need for signage for sections maintained at 90, because the definition of these sections is sufficiently clear in the Highway Code to not require signs.

In respect of Road Safety, it is also estimated that 90kph signs are not essential. On the other hand, the installation of signs is strongly recommended to road highways managers. Therefore there are now many 90kph signs at the beginning of the overtaking lanes".


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