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[NIP Wizard] 23 days to send NIP
Quin the Eskimo
post Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 15:20
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2018
Date of the NIP: - 23 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 26 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A406 jN Beechwood Av N3 to n„ÄĆoffslipAlOOO Finchley High Rd N12 (1131114
Was the NIP addressed to you? - No
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Named driver of company vehicle
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - No recollection of event but apparently captured by automatic camera - no photographic advice provided at this time.

The NIP was addressed to the Company, at the correct address but clearly shows it was dated 23 days after the alleged offence.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - No

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • Do nothing!

    The police are not requesting the information from you, they are requesting it from the person the NIP is addressed to.
    Wait until you receive a NIP addressed to you personally, then come back here.

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post Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 15:34
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QUOTE (Quin the Eskimo @ Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 16:20) *
The NIP was addressed to the Company, at the correct address but clearly shows it was dated 23 days after the alleged offence.

Does the company hold the v5c? (I'd bet a leasing company does?)

QUOTE (Quin the Eskimo @ Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 16:20) *
no photographic advice provided at this time.

Nor do they need to provide it at this stage.

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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 19:14
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The company should reply naming you, and you will then get your own NIP. What speed in what limit is alleged?


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Quin the Eskimo
post Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 10:32
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2018
Date of the NIP: - 44 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 46 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A406 jN Beechwood Av N3 to nr off slip A1000 Finchley High Rd N12 (11311141) United Kingdom
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Company Car driver
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Offence details unknown - no recollection of passing speed camera.

As a leased company car, the original NIP was sent to my employer, but was not sent until 31/7/18. They then returned this with my details.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 10:36
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QUOTE (Quin the Eskimo @ Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 11:32) *
As a leased company car, the original NIP was sent to my employer, but was not sent until 31/7/18. They then returned this with my details.

Do you know that for a fact or are you guessing? If the car is leased, it's extremely likely that the leasing company are the Registered Keepers, they hold the V5C and received the original NIP.

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post Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 11:18
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Whatever the issues with the timeliness of the NIP (and, as stated above, it's more than likely that there are none) you must respond to the request for driver's details within the 28 days allowed. Failure to do will see you facing a more serious charge which carries six points, a hefty fine and an edorsement code which, if you pay for any motor insurance yourself, will see a considerable increase in premiums.
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post Thu, 23 Aug 2018 - 12:15
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QUOTE (Jlc @ Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 16:34) *
QUOTE (Quin the Eskimo @ Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 16:20) *
The NIP was addressed to the Company, at the correct address but clearly shows it was dated 23 days after the alleged offence.

Does the company hold the v5c? (I'd bet a leasing company does?)

And........?


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