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Posted by: MarkS627 Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:43
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - January 2018
Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - At M3 Junction 3-4, CAMBERLEY, UNITED KINGDON
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The M3 was completely empty and I was not paying attention to the speed. A camera flashed which caused me to brake suddenly.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:


Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 23:41:27 +0000

Speed was 97. Speed limit 70.

Posted by: peterguk Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:47
Post #1345752

Any questions?

Posted by: MarkS627 Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 23:54
Post #1345754

Thanks

How long a ban if any?
How big a fine?
Where will I have to go to court? Will I have to go to Surrey?

Thanks for your help.

Posted by: Logician Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 00:50
Post #1345758

A short ban is possible but very unlikely, most likely you will get 5 or 6 points. The fine will be one week's net income, less 33% for a guilty plea, plus 10% surcharge (minimum £30), plus costs of £85. It will be dealt with by a court (Fixed penalty only up to 95 in a 70 limit) but you can plead guilty by post and not have to attend. A not guilty plea would mean you had to go to court in Surrey.

Posted by: MarkS627 Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:00
Post #1396680

I was flashed by a motorway speed camera on the 3rd January. I responded to the NIP within 28 days.

Only now do I have the court papers through a little longer than six months later.

Where do I find the relevant date that the papers were "laid before the court"?

Thanks

M


Posted by: southpaw82 Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:03
Post #1396682

It’s unlikely that they were. You’re likely to have a written charge and single justice procedure notice. What date does it say the charge was issued on?

Posted by: The Rookie Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:04
Post #1396683

You don’t, what you need is the date of issue of the written charge which will be on it.

Posted by: MarkS627 Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:09
Post #1396684

Yes, I have a single justice procedure notice.

Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?

M.

Posted by: peterguk Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:15
Post #1396685

QUOTE (MarkS627 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:09) *
Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?


Yep.
What is alleged speed and limit?

Posted by: MarkS627 Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:17
Post #1396686

QUOTE (peterguk @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:15) *
QUOTE (MarkS627 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 13:09) *
Charge date: 02/07/2018.

So just in time for them - right?


Yep.
What is alleged speed and limit?


97 in a 70.

Posted by: andy_foster Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 18:25
Post #1396730

Does the SJPN have an issue date?

Posted by: MarkS627 Sun, 8 Jul 2018 - 18:50
Post #1396901

Redacted scans attached.

 

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