Wycs Dewsbury, Clampped |
Wycs Dewsbury, Clampped |
Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:11
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hi all new to the forum went into dewsbury town today and parked in a carpark that has been taken ove by these Muppet one small sign at far side of carpark and demanded £125 release fee i had to pay it as was faced with car being towed what can i do now to get my money back or some kind of action
thanks This post has been edited by khile: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:09 |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:25
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Member Group: Life Member Posts: 5,243 Joined: 9 Jul 2004 From: Devon Member No.: 1,388 |
hi all new to the forum went into dewsbury town today and parked in a carpark that has been taken ove by these Muppet one small sign at far side of carpark and demanded £125 release fee i had to pay it as was faced with car being towed what can i do now to get my money back or some kind of action thanks Do I need a license to clamp cars on my property? From 28 Feb 05 anyone undertaking "licensable vehicle immobilisation activities"... Clamping & the Law From 28 February 2005 anyone undertaking "licensable vehicle immobilisation activities" will require a licence from the Security Industries Authority (SIA). A licensable activity is immobilising a vehicle with an immobilisation device, including a wheel clamp, on private land against a release fee. You will need a license, for example, if: * you are a business providing wheel clamping services, or * you are an employee who handles the wheel clamping of your car park at work, or * you are a private land owner who does your own wheel clamping and charges a release fee. How to get a licence You will need to apply for a license from the SIA. If you are front line staff, you must be over 18, pass an identity and criminal record check, and have the right SIA approved qualification. If you are non-front line staff, such as a manager or director, you will need to pass a criminal record check and an identity check. You will not need to take the training. If you are front line staff you will need to wear the license where it can be seen at all times when working. Edexcel is the official awarding body for the new vehicle immobiliser qualification. To find out details of local training courses, contact them on 0870 240 9800 or visit http://www.edexcel.org.uk. The license application fee for front line staff is £190 for 1 year. Non-front line staff will also need to pay £190 but the license is valid for 3 years. Penalties The Private Security Industry Act 2001 creates several new criminal offences. It will be an offence to provide a designated security service without a licence, or employ an unlicensed person in an activity for which a licence would be required. The penalties for committing an offence can be either, summary conviction at a magistrate's court - the maximum penalty is six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5,000, or, trial on indictment at the Crown Court, whereby an unlimited fine and/or five years imprisonment could be imposed. There maybe several ideas here as what you could do. -------------------- Peter
What I'd like to see police/local authorities do is deal with important issues and not these sorts of victimless crimes when society is riddled with problems. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? 'The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.' - Albert Einstein |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
i did not see any form of id or licence from this [mod edit] he accused me of trying to remove the clamp which i did not
who can i report him too as no id was shown to me and around his neck was a halifax bank card is a card holder as i thought it was a bit strange to wear a bank card around his nieck This post has been edited by southpaw82: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 17:20 |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:40
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Member Group: Life Member Posts: 5,243 Joined: 9 Jul 2004 From: Devon Member No.: 1,388 |
i did not see any form of id or licence from this [mod edit] he accused me of trying to remove the clamp which i did not who can i report him too as no id was shown to me and around his neck was a halifax bank card is a card holder as i thought it was a bit strange to wear a bank card around his nieck If he gave you a receipt which I hope he did, you will have details on there. If you suspect he was a using fictitious ID, the nick is your next port of call. There are also other things you should consider. This post has been edited by southpaw82: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 17:20 -------------------- Peter
What I'd like to see police/local authorities do is deal with important issues and not these sorts of victimless crimes when society is riddled with problems. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? 'The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.' - Albert Einstein |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:41
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Did he give you a receipt? Can we see it (obscure your details, but leave his in).
How did you pay? Did you get any photos of the sign? Can we see that? -------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:42
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How did you pay ? Cash or credit card ?
Did you get a receipt ? If so, post it up with your details removed ? You are going to find out who hired the company because clampers are not in the habit of paying CCJs. Is it possible that this is a pop-up car-park - the clampers own land or even a spot of common ground ? WYCS is not a limited company and only a PO Box is available. My database shows a David Watson as the proprietor but you may need a professional tracing service to find him. Might be worth checking the ownership of the website for an address. This post has been edited by Gan: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 14:52 |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
How did you pay ? Cash or credit card ? Did you get a receipt ? If so, post it up with your details removed ? You are going to find out who hired the company because clampers are not in the habit of paying CCJs. Is it possible that this is a pop-up car-park - the clampers own land or even a spot of common ground ? WYCS is not a limited company and only a PO Box is available. My database shows a David Watson as the proprietor but you may need a professional tracing service to find him. Might be worth checking the ownership of the website for an address. Payment: bank card over phone receipt: Yes and will upload Car park is at back of retail shops and people have parked there for years i have traced the company to an address on westgate in wakefield This post has been edited by khile: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:03 |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 22,678 Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Member No.: 27,239 |
Do you mean debit or credit card.
Credit card has possibility though difficult of a chargeback. |
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
hi yea sorry debit card
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
hi yea sorry debit card
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:27
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Slightly off, but is it just me or is that sign saying that disabled people, possibly displaying a blue badge, are not exempt from clamping? Think that's wrong...
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:46
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I can't see the pic, but a lot of clamping signs say that, despite the fact that - yes - it's wrong, and contrary to SIA directives.
-------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 15:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
taken a photo of the reciept
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 16:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 9,985 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Member No.: 21,992 |
I think dropbox.com must be on the work internet police list for some reason. We normally recommend tinypic.
-------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 - 16:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,477 |
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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 17:32
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As a worker in dewsbury I pay There is also two entrances £450 a year to park in this car park behind yorkshire bank, Why should myself and many others pay a yearly fee for people like yourself to park there for free. As for only being one sign this is completely wrong there are at least 8 signs within the car park area. there is two entrances to this car park and whichever one you use there are two very large signs stating it is a private car park maybe if you cant see these signs you should not be driving. WYCS have done a great job on this car park since they began and they have ensured that the people who are paying to park on here are able to do so. I do agree that £125 is a lot of money but i also believe that this price is regulated by the british parking association in which according to the signs this company are members. The bottom line is you did park illegally where there are signs stating the consequences this was the risk you took by parking where you are clearly not allowed to park.
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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 17:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,931 Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Member No.: 4,323 |
the BPA is not a regulator. Check your membership and the notes they dish out.
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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 17:48
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I am just stating That according to the BPA the maximum charge is £125 From what i have seen on tv programmes and heard on the news many of these clamping companys around charge at least double this or even tow the car straight away. WYCS obviously follow the BPA guidelines unlike most other companys is the point i am getting at. As i stated in my last post i am just a worker who pays to park in the car park in question i have nothin to do with WYCS i am just saying i am grateful for them keeping these spaces free for people who are paying
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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 17:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
The bottom line is you did park illegally No, he didn't. Illegally would indicate that he committed a criminal offence, which he did not do. It's a little odd that you work in Dewsbury enough to pay for a permanent parking space in this very car park yet you're posting from London. Even odder that you have a very strange IP address. Since you only seem to have come on here to cause trouble I think I'll revoke your posting privileges. Buhbye. This post has been edited by southpaw82: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 18:04 -------------------- Moderator
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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 - 18:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Member No.: 23,295 |
Was it a VISA Debit Card? If so possibility of chargeback, but you'll have to argue.
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