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[NIP Wizard] NIP received >14days
ISM
post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 20:50
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - April 2018
Date of the NIP: - 25 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 29 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A664 Brighouse and denholme road, keelham, between thornton road and deep lane, united kingdom
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Unaware of camera, was doing 36 in a 30. purchased car early april but had had v5 by date of offence. initial NIP shows no evidence of any previous letter having been sent (i.e. if they had the old owners address)

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 20:56
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The usual answer is that at the time you were not the registered keeper or at least not at that address, check the V5c registration document, make sure the name and address is correct, it’s worth checking the date next to the ‘docref’ on the bottom of page two as that is when the DVLA last updated the details, how does that compare to the offence date?

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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 21:10
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thanks for the reply, unfortunately i do not have the V5 as by the time i received the NIP i had changed the plate on the car and now have a different V5 (i did the plate change on 9/5/28 so well after the incident). I KNOW i was in posession of the v5 on the date of the offence but i am unable to check the docref on the V% at the time of the offence... if that makes sense! thanks again
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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 21:31
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If you had the v5 then the 1st NIP should have come to you unless the dates were exceptionally tight.

Perhaps ask them?

The driver needs to be identified regardless.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 21:49
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yeah, ill complete the NIP and send a polite letter laugh.gif
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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 19:08
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Worst case scenario a SAC is likely to be offered, even if they give a valid reason for the late arrival.
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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 22:32
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The danger is that if you start talking about the 14 day rule, they will regard this as something that needs to be settled by a court and not offer an SAC. A phone call politely enquiring about the 14 days rule might be better than a letter.


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post Fri, 22 Jun 2018 - 08:03
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Being (probably overly) optimistic, it should be possible for the DVLA to be able to tell you the doc ref date of the previous V5C, worth a phone call I'd say!


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