Heathrow drop off pick up |
Heathrow drop off pick up |
Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 11:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Are there any actual bylaws or regulated restrictions at Heathrow which apply to the drop off parking area to prevent pick up?
Pick up is supposed to be from the designated parking area which is a paid for area. If a passenger is waiting outside in the free drop off area for instant pick up would this contravene any bylaw or restriction? I can only find references which appear to be a request ie "should use then pick up area" and that "waiting" is not allowed in drop off. This post has been edited by mickR: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 11:24 |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 11:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
So what have you actually received?
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 13:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
It's a question to evaluate whether or not there is actually any actionable restriction.
I considered posting in flame pit but think this requires the attention of parking issue members |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 14:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
What signage is there? Who's name is on it?
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 14:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9 Feb 2019 Member No.: 102,366 |
Hi
I believe T3 road way to be legally designated so this thread maybe better in the Council https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2940882 ATB This post has been edited by chapinahat: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 16:11 |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 17:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Am I missing something??
heathrow bylaws Can't find the TRO ! Anyone help? This post has been edited by mickR: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 18:36 |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 18:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
People saying there are signs £40 penalty for picking up.
But under what authority?? |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 19:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
What class of vehicle are you anticipating using? A little more information will probably elicit a little more help!
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 20:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
People saying there are signs £40 penalty for picking up. Did any of those people get a photo of the signs? Lots of posts/info: Google "heathrow passenger pick up £40 penalty" -------------------- |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 20:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
3-4 years old! I have picked up from T5 departures a number of times since then. Providing my passenger is ready and waiting, as verified by phone, a couple of seconds to board has never attracted any attention to me.
As I said, rather than pulling teeth, if the OP could give some more information as to his thought processes and precisely what scenario he is envisaging, it would be a lot easier to have a meaningful discussion. -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 20:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
I'm resigned to using the short term car park for pick ups at Heathrow and Gatwick, and have done a fair few for family recently. Did pick up outside hotel at Gatwick having retrieved car from long term car park rather than drag family to car park.
The problem is timing - you can park outside the perimeter somewhere but then you could have your passenger waiting in the rain and cold somewhere. For the sake of £5 or so it's hardly worth the hassle. The trick is to avoid the next charge band up - which I failed to do at T2 Healthrow the other day and that cost me more than £11. |
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Sun, 10 Feb 2019 - 21:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Using a Normal private car, Have picked up from drop off when passenger was ready and waiting there. Last time passenger said there were a few yellow jacketed attendants talking to others who were doing same as me.
The talk and threat of a penalty is one thing but can it be backed up with anything? I can't see a bylaw appertaining to it. |
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 10:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9 Feb 2019 Member No.: 102,366 |
https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2940882 are none of these TRO relevant
Needs to be in Council and similar PCN forum ATB |
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 11:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
Needs to be in Council and similar PCN forum Flame Pit is where discussions belong. -------------------- |
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 12:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2940882 are none of these TRO relevant Needs to be in Council and similar PCN forum ATB Have you been here before? After 6 comments and someone whose account is only 2 days old, you don't appear to have done a lot of reading of the forum. If you look at the byelaws, above, you will see that all the pick-up and drop-off points are within the airport estate. Aside from not having any relevance to the airport, bar one lane adjacent to T3, those notices are proposals and don't necessarily mean the order has been enacted yet. Using a Normal private car, Have picked up from drop off when passenger was ready and waiting there. Last time passenger said there were a few yellow jacketed attendants talking to others who were doing same as me. The talk and threat of a penalty is one thing but can it be backed up with anything? I can't see a bylaw appertaining to it. I have seen them challenging vehicles in the past, maybe those who are waiting for a period before their passenger arrives. I have never been approached but, I am up there again on Friday; I shall see if I can get a ticket!!! This post has been edited by cabbyman: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 12:24 -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 16:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Using a Normal private car, Have picked up from drop off when passenger was ready and waiting there. Last time passenger said there were a few yellow jacketed attendants talking to others who were doing same as me. The talk and threat of a penalty is one thing but can it be backed up with anything? I can't see a bylaw appertaining to it. I've not looked into it much but isn't bylaw 3.29 relevant? -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 17:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
Using a Normal private car, Have picked up from drop off when passenger was ready and waiting there. Last time passenger said there were a few yellow jacketed attendants talking to others who were doing same as me. The talk and threat of a penalty is one thing but can it be backed up with anything? I can't see a bylaw appertaining to it. I've not looked into it much but isn't bylaw 3.29 relevant? I thought that but a Private Hire Vehicle is a specific class of vehicle: “private hire vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted to seat [F62fewer than nine passengers], other than a hackney carriage or public service vehicle [F63or a London cab][F64or tramcar], which is provided for hire with the services of a driver for the purpose of carrying passengers; Sec 80 Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976. A private car NOT provided for hire with the services of a driver would be outwith the definition and, I submit, not covered by byelaw 3.29. -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 17:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,860 Joined: 12 May 2012 Member No.: 54,871 |
Heathrow Airport is private property, the boundary being the perimeter road, so most Traffic Laws don't apply - hence the bye laws.
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 18:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 7,235 Joined: 5 Jan 2007 From: England Member No.: 9,919 |
Using a Normal private car, Have picked up from drop off when passenger was ready and waiting there. Last time passenger said there were a few yellow jacketed attendants talking to others who were doing same as me. The talk and threat of a penalty is one thing but can it be backed up with anything? I can't see a bylaw appertaining to it. I've not looked into it much but isn't bylaw 3.29 relevant? I thought that but a Private Hire Vehicle is a specific class of vehicle: “private hire vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted to seat [F62fewer than nine passengers], other than a hackney carriage or public service vehicle [F63or a London cab][F64or tramcar], which is provided for hire with the services of a driver for the purpose of carrying passengers; Sec 80 Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976. A private car NOT provided for hire with the services of a driver would be outwith the definition and, I submit, not covered by byelaw 3.29. That was my understanding of it. |
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Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 19:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
I could have some fun. Mine is a Hackney Carriage, licensed outside London. So, not an authorised taxi, private hire vehicle or private car, save that it could be construed as doing private hire work, as defined in the 1976 Act.
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