Bam Livingston PCN, Query re PCN for not displaying valid ticket |
Bam Livingston PCN, Query re PCN for not displaying valid ticket |
Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:05
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Member No.: 80,213 |
Hello knowledgeable people
Abm is issuing windscreen PCN tickets in the shopping centre at Livingston Scotland. It is a privately owned car park which charges by the hour, paid at meters. If a car gets a PCN ticket for not displaying a valid paid parking ticket can anyone tell me whether this is the same non enforceable bluster as getting a PCN for example overstaying in a non charged car park or does not having a paid ticket put it in a different legal status? Tia |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:05
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,124 Joined: 8 Feb 2013 Member No.: 59,842 |
Read here:
https://padi.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/...es-Scotland-Ltd And here: http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata...s_Scotland.html Ignore - no contact whatsoever. |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
No keeper liability indeed. But tickets are potentially enforceable - I would never claim otherwise.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:54
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Member No.: 80,213 |
Read here: https://padi.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/...es-Scotland-Ltd And here: http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata...s_Scotland.html Ignore - no contact whatsoever. Many thanks!! great info No keeper liability indeed. But tickets are potentially enforceable - I would never claim otherwise. Poor choice of wording on my part, but my query is whether a PCN for not having a valid paid ticket is any different/potentially worse to a PCN for overstaying in a non paying private car park. |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
There are arguments that there is a disproportionate amount versus the unpaid tariff but trying to convincing a judge that ParkingEye v Beavis (only persuasive in Scotland) doesn't apply is difficult.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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