Speeding Aberdeen to Dundee, Advice! |
Speeding Aberdeen to Dundee, Advice! |
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 17:06
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13 Aug 2018 Member No.: 99,386 |
Hi all, this is my first time posting on here.
I have a court citation for Aberdeen sheriff court later this month. I was clocked doing 74mph in a 50 zone. The letter states I can attend personally, arrange for a lawyer or write to the PF. First of all I intend on pleading guilty, I'm not a boy racer and this is a genuine mistake on my part which I'm responsible for. Been driving 10 years and have a clean licence. What's the best course of action, get a lawyer? If I plead guilty by post and write a letter do I still need to attend court? I start uni next month to study mental health nursing and I can't afford to lose my licence. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers. |
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 17:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
I suspect it says wrote to the sherif/court not the PF?
Just write a letter containing your guilty plea and a short letter of mitigation, you aren’t likely to loose your licence (and if you do it will be for a very short time) and a solicitor would be a waste of money. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 17:11
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13 Aug 2018 Member No.: 99,386 |
Thanks for the quick reply.
It states 1. Attend court in person 2. Arrange for a lawyer to attend. 3. Write to procurator fiscal Aberdeen using the reply form enclosed. |
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 17:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
That speed should have been eligible for a fixed penalty, any idea why it went to court?
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 18:43
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13 Aug 2018 Member No.: 99,386 |
Really? Isn't 24 mph over the speed limit excessive?
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 19:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
Apart from a 30 limit (where the excess before court action is 20), the normal excess before court action is 25. So Anything up 75 on a 50 would get a fixed penalty.
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 19:25
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13 Aug 2018 Member No.: 99,386 |
I didn't realise that!
Any advice on how best to proceed? My dad ( Retired cop ) says a lawyer is a waste of cash,better to plead guilty, right a letter and hope its points and a reasonable fine? |
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 19:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
My dad ( Retired cop ) says a lawyer is a waste of cash,better to plead guilty, right a letter and hope its points and a reasonable fine? Never take legal advice from the police. However, unless you have a defence what do you expect a lawyer to do for you (particularly if you’re offered a fixed penalty)? -------------------- Moderator
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Mon, 13 Aug 2018 - 20:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10,460 Joined: 8 Sep 2008 Member No.: 22,424 |
I get a feeling anything 20mph over in Scotland goes to court these days (perhaps other than in a 70 limit) as I've noticed a few instances of 21+ over going to court.
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Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 19:56
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Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 20:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,306 Joined: 4 Mar 2017 Member No.: 90,659 |
In Scotland you get a 33% discount on the points as well for an early guilty plea.
Normal advice for a guilty plea is to fall in your sword, apologise and point to your good driving record. In E&W the band for 66-75 is 4-6 points OR disqualify for 7-56 days. They do not follow the same guidelines exactly in Scotland and indeed anecdotally can be slightly harsher. If they are considering a ban they will require you to appear, and it would seem likely you will either get 6 (4 after discount) points or a short ban. Assuming points are a better option then having to get to a Scottish court without a car (any ban is immediate) then you may wish to include a phrase along the lines of "I understand I will be receiving a considerable number of points and rest assured they will act as a constant reminder over the coming years to closely observe speed limits" to try to persuade them in that direction. This post has been edited by notmeatloaf: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 - 20:33 |
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