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MrSkeedle¬_¬
post Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 22:03
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A few months ago my brother received 3 speeding tickets in the post, yes, 3 all at the same time. One was from december 2017 and 2 others from the same day sometime in January. I do not have the exact dates, but this shouldnt matter. im just trying to lay down the basic fact that these speeding tickets were from a very long time ago and were all delivered on the same day. He has sent a letter off stating basically how old the tickets are and how he got all 3 of them at the same time, and they did not reply, just sent out another 3 letters asking him to plead guilty or not guilty.

How is this fair? If he got caught speeding, you get a ticket within a reasonable time frame, you think oh **** and you pay the fine and watch your speed! but hes got 3 tickets all at the same time, if he pleads guilty, which he was, he was speeding, he will be banned.

We really have no idea what to do at this point, but it just seems impossible you can get banned for 3 speeding tickets over the course of a month or so, that took 3 months or something to be delivered.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys.
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post Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 22:30
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To start with, it would be very much better if you brother posted here himself, our experience is that when we ask questions of someone other than the motorist concerned we get replies which the poster THINKS are correct but turn out to be mistaken.

We need to know what you mean by 'speeding tickets' that could refer to a number of things, but what should happen, if a driver was not stopped at the time, the registered keeper of the vehicle receives a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP), which also asks him to name the driver. This has to be delivered within 14 days, and if what your brother has received are NIPs, and he is the registered keeper, the likelihood is that he has changed his address or his car and the V5C of the car (aka the logbook) did not show his correct name and address when the police checked the DVLA records, and they managed to trace him only after the event.

If he did receive 3 NIPs a few months ago, as you say, and failed to reply to them, he is in serious trouble, because failing to respond with details of the driver within 28 days is an offence which itself carries 6 points and a large fine. You therefore need to find out what the situation is, and preferably get him to post here himself. If he is in the habit of ignoring official communications, he may have ignored a requisition to court and been convicted in his absence. It is quite possible he has already been disqualified.



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post Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 22:33
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QUOTE (Logician @ Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 23:30) *
To start with, it would be very much better if you brother posted here himself, our experience is that when we ask questions of someone other than the motorist concerned we get replies which the poster THINKS are correct but turn out to be mistaken.

We need to know what you mean by 'speeding tickets' that could refer to a number of things, but what should happen, if a driver was not stopped at the time, the registered keeper of the vehicle receives a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP), which also asks him to name the driver. This has to be delivered within 14 days, and if what your brother has received are NIPs, and he is the registered keeper, the likelihood is that he has changed his address or his car and the V5C of the car (aka the logbook) did not show his correct name and address when the police checked the DVLA records, and they managed to trace him only after the event.

If he did receive 3 NIPs a few months ago, as you say, and failed to reply to them, he is in serious trouble, because failing to respond with details of the driver within 28 days is an offence which itself carries 6 points and a large fine. You therefore need to find out what the situation is, and preferably get him to post here himself. If he is in the habit of ignoring official communications, he may have ignored a requisition to court and been convicted in his absence. It is quite possible he has already been disqualified.



We're not at that point yet, i'm posting myself to make sure something gets done about it. In a basic explanation hes a bit ****** off with it and really busy with school and work so im just doing him a favour smile.gif

He was caught by a speeding camera and the letters were from dates months back. I will check with him tomorrow that all of his addresses etc have always been upto date. thanks for the help

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post Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 22:49
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People sometimes change the address on their driving licence and think that will work for the car as well, but it does not. Ask if he has anything after those letters and check his licence on https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence to see if anything has happened without his knowledge.


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post Mon, 25 Jun 2018 - 07:44
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QUOTE (MrSkeedle¬_¬ @ Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 23:33) *
He was caught by a speeding camera and the letters were from dates months back. I will check with him tomorrow that all of his addresses etc have always been upto date. thanks for the help

Regardless of being 'fair' (almost certainty legal though) he had to nominate the driver even if the NIP's were 'late' - he's looking at 18 points and large fines.

There's usually a good explanation for 'late' NIP's and they have 6 months to commence a prosecution.

We need to know the exact offences being charged. Even if the driver was named (and met the s172 requirement) it's possible it was too late to issue fixed penalties.

QUOTE (MrSkeedle¬_¬ @ Sun, 24 Jun 2018 - 23:03) *
We really have no idea what to do at this point, but it just seems impossible you can get banned for 3 speeding tickets over the course of a month or so, that took 3 months or something to be delivered.

Very possible - we've seen cases of 4 or more offences in similar circumstances.

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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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