[NIP Wizard] sp30 in hire car |
[NIP Wizard] sp30 in hire car |
Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 23:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 11 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,849 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - November 2018 Date of the NIP: - 50 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 51 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Cleveden Road / Great Western Road Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - courtesy car How many current points do you have? - 3 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I believe I was caught by what I have always thought was a red light camera but appears to be a dual speed and red light camera doing 42MPH in a 30. What I'm wondering is if I have a chance to appeal? NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - Scotland NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 23:18:49 +0000 This post has been edited by jacksonmaia: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 - 14:40 |
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Thu, 28 Mar 2019 - 17:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 11 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,849 |
I've received a note from the Police service of Scotland, a citation officer asking me to phone a phone number regarding a road traffic enquiry. Should I ignore this?
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Thu, 28 Mar 2019 - 17:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,262 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
I would just ignore, yes.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Sun, 19 May 2019 - 16:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 11 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,849 |
It's now been 6 months since the date of the speeding offence. Is that me in the clear?
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Sun, 19 May 2019 - 17:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,586 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Any potential s172 offence occurs 28 days after the request is issued.
So there’s still some way to go... This post has been edited by Jlc: Sun, 19 May 2019 - 17:43 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sun, 19 May 2019 - 19:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
The speeding offence is timed out but S172 offence is committed 28 days after you received the request
As this was mid-February it won't time out until August |
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Mon, 20 May 2019 - 08:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 2 Aug 2005 Member No.: 3,508 |
Peter is confused on the need to avoid the Police, any verbal response wouldn’t corroborated it wouldn’t be admissible as evidence anyway. This is news to me (the second part at least). Would you care to elaborate? There was a big discussion on here a while back, evidence in Scotland all has to be corroborated, even a confession has to have corroborating evidence, there is a specific exemption for the written S172 response but not for a verbal one, so a verbal S172 response would not be admissible in evidence in Scotland without corroboration, it’s hard to see what corroboration there could be? Usually the second constable provides the corroboration of what the first says you said. I recall one saying "Here is my corroboration" while pointing to his colleague when the question was raised by our solicitor. -------------------- Speeding tickets, like lottery tickets, are a voluntary tax. You don't have to get them.
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Mon, 20 May 2019 - 11:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,262 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Usually the second constable provides the corroboration of what the first says you said. No, not true. two people confirming the same source doesn't corroborate that source/ -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 20 May 2019 - 11:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,634 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
Usually the second constable provides the corroboration of what the first says you said. No, not true. two people confirming the same source doesn't corroborate that source/ Doesn’t that depend on what you’re trying to corroborate? If you’re trying to corroborate who made the statement and what that statement was it seems to do the job. -------------------- Moderator
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Mon, 20 May 2019 - 12:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,262 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
True, but it matters not if those are corroborated if the driver nomination given isn't, all have to be corroborated for it to be usable.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 20 May 2019 - 21:33
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 11 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,849 |
OK I'll continue to "lay low" until after August. If I am questioned by a Policeman, should I continue to say nothing or would it now be better to name myself etc as the 6months has passed?
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Tue, 21 May 2019 - 07:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,262 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
As 6 months have passed they couldn't now start proceedings for speeding.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
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Tue, 21 May 2019 - 14:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 11 May 2014 Member No.: 70,566 |
But they could for fail to furnish which is far more damaging.
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Tue, 21 May 2019 - 14:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Member No.: 23,623 |
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