3 PCN in 3 days for 52M - over 56 days from appeal |
3 PCN in 3 days for 52M - over 56 days from appeal |
Fri, 2 Dec 2022 - 18:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
back in june i was visiting Enfield, and inadvertantly went through a 52M 3 times in 3 days, signs there but just wasnt aware that i couldnt drive down there! I appealed all 3 end of July, they told me it will be frozen but could take upto 56 days to reply. last week, got letters through for all 3 saying my appeal failed and each one is now £195 each. With them taking longer than 56 days does that mean that they accepted my appeal to pay 1 fine instead of 3, or am i stuffed and have to pay nearly £600?
I have until tuesday to pay as this is a company car so only just got to me. Im not disputing it was me, but do i have a route to go back to the £65 each, or appeal on the fact this is over 56 days? Thanks in advance! redacted letter here |
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Fri, 2 Dec 2022 - 18:23
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 01:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,007 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Only the recipient of the PCNs can do this, not you. Well the company has to make the statutory declaration, but a company can only act through its human agents. As long as you are not acting outside of your authority, you are able to do this, but you will need our help filling in the form (a form filled in as an officer of a company has to be filled in differently to a form filled in in a personal capacity). Come back here for detailed advice once the debt has been registered. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 11:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Quick question, who needs to swear and witness the documents?
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 11:13
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 11:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Quick question, who needs to swear and witness the documents? It is best to be done before an Officer at the County/Magistrate Court as it is free, however solicitor can do this costing around £8. Thanks, can I take that in or does it have to be a director from work? Also, online it is still allowing me to appeal again, is that normal and does it change anything? |
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 15:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,280 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Quick question, who needs to swear and witness the documents? It is best to be done before an Officer at the County/Magistrate Court as it is free, however solicitor can do this costing around £8. Thanks, can I take that in or does it have to be a director from work? See post #21 Also, online it is still allowing me to appeal again, is that normal and does it change anything? Ignore that. Don't step out side the advised process. But take a screenshot of that in case we have a use for it in future. -------------------- |
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Sun, 4 Dec 2022 - 16:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Quick question, who needs to swear and witness the documents? It is best to be done before an Officer at the County/Magistrate Court as it is free, however solicitor can do this costing around £8. Thanks, can I take that in or does it have to be a director from work? See post #21 Also, online it is still allowing me to appeal again, is that normal and does it change anything? Ignore that. Don't step out side the advised process. But take a screenshot of that in case we have a use for it in future. Great thanks, I didn’t see post 21 for some reason. Have screenshot the appeal link and will come back once the next stage happens. Really appreciate all this advice… |
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Wed, 21 Dec 2022 - 11:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Once it’s reset will they revert to £65 each? In your circumstances the legislation requires the council to refer the matter to the adjudicator, who will normally set a hearing. However, in 2016, the tribunal issued blanket directions to councils on this matter. This requires them to clarify what has happened. If they claim not to have received representations, they must ask you to resubmit them. If they received them and issued a notice of rejection then they are required to send you a copy of that rejection. In each circumstance the case should proceed from there. ----------------- Another bit of info > There is no firm restriction on when the debts can be registered. When they are, the OfR gives you 21 days to respond. The earliest they can register the debts, providing all Charge Certs are the same date, is 9th December. If you don't receive the OfRs by about 20th you should phone TEC to see if the debts have been registered. 0300 123 1059 Keep us updated along the way. UPDATE - Phoned the TEC today, none of the debts have been registered they said to call again in 2 weeks. |
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Wed, 18 Jan 2023 - 10:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Update 18/1 - still not registered with the court.
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Wed, 18 Jan 2023 - 13:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,280 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Update 18/1 - still not registered with the court. Ok. Keep at it! -------------------- |
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Thu, 27 Apr 2023 - 15:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
update 27/4/23 - none of them have been registered. Should i do anything or just wait?
Thanks... This post has been edited by bennjiboy: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 - 15:20 |
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Sat, 29 Apr 2023 - 12:46
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Just wait. If it gets to six months, we can look at filing a formal complaint for the undue delay.
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 25 May 2023 - 13:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
Hi, work have now received the order for recovery, do i just get them to fill out the statutory declaration and tick the box saying representations were made and not received a rejection notice?
Or is there something else we need to do - all 3 are identical with the different PCN numbers. Thanks. This post has been edited by bennjiboy: Fri, 26 May 2023 - 12:37 |
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Sat, 27 May 2023 - 17:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,007 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Hi, work have now received the order for recovery, do i just get them to fill out the statutory declaration and tick the box saying representations were made and not received a rejection notice? Yes but you cannot sign it at home, you need to make an appointment with your local county court or magistrates' court and you'll have to sign it in front of them. You then scan the form and send it to tec@justice.gov.uk This post has been edited by cp8759: Sat, 27 May 2023 - 17:34 -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Mon, 5 Jun 2023 - 15:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 2 Dec 2022 Member No.: 118,479 |
thanks, all signed today and will scan and email back.
what will happen from here please? |
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