PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route), Stopped in an emergency Options

[John Adams CR]

Hi everyone,

I wondering if you could help me decide if it is worth appealing a PCN I recently received from TFL.

A family member was recently diagnosed with diabetes so unfortunately was still new to controlling her blood sugars. In the early hours of the morning one night we were travelling home and she felt dizzy as if her blood sugar was low. I am a doctor so knew it was imperative that I attained a sugary drink or snack for her ASAP, so I pulled up on the side of the A5 behind a row of other cars and quickly popped into the nearest shop and got her a juice drink. I was in the shop for no more than 5 minutes and would be visibly seen holding a juice on the CCTV when I came out and returned to the vehicle. I am fully aware that this could appear as if I was merely thirsty and wanted to get a drink myself so I’m not sure if it is even worth appealing.

Secondly, with regards to the red route lines themselves, please see the google streetview pictures attached. The nearest sign was around 50 metres ahead of where I was parked, and actually said “No stopping 7am-7pm”, however this was in relation to a single red line. There were no signs for the double red line and I didn’t even see the line had changed from double to single in that time as there were many cars tightly parked and I was in a bit of an emergency. The car in front of me was also on the double red line which is why I stupidly thought all of the cars were on the double red line and the sign related to the whole stretch. Does anyone think I have grounds to claim there was inadequate relevant signage relating to the double red line further back where I was parked?

Thank you for any help and guidance you can offer, at this stage I am just seeing if it is even worth appealing. I will attach all the images below.

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[hcandersen]

I have.

I cannot get past this:

considered essential in order to prevent an escalation of symptoms that could cause significant harm and require urgent hospital treatment. It was 1am and there are few places to buy drinks at that time. I considered one of the only late night restaurants open.

Nice risk to take with your mother’s wellbeing/life at 1am...

Sorry, cannot get over the personal issues here. I’ll log out and see what happens. In the court of the EA, they might succeed.

In my court....

[John Adams CR]

Thanks again for your replies.

I think I will just stick with what I wrote in post 23 but may not include the fact that she had run out of glucose tablets, as it appears this leaves me open to some blame and the potential for TFL to say it was my responsibility to check this, as one user has pointed out (I always enquire as to her condition and whether she has taken her meds / has emergency supplies but she had indeed assured me to stop worrying. In hindsight, we were late for a wedding earlier in the day and I was last ready so she was probably just trying to get me out of the house).

I was wondering if anyone thinks there is even any point mentioning my relationship to the passenger if it leaves me open to more scrutiny? If I just said “my passenger”, would it give me a better standing in your opinion?

Thanks!

[hcandersen]

I’m like a revolving door, in, out, in ....

OP, you now give us the info we’ve been seeking and which formed the basis of my responses:

(I always enquire as to her condition and whether she has taken her meds / has emergency supplies but she had indeed assured me to stop worrying)

So, you checked with her prior to setting off on your journey; she reassured you that everything was OK; you accepted these ( what else could you do, rummage through her bag?); therefore when she had an episode it was as much a surprise as unpredictable.

Given the urgency of the situation you took immediate action ....

Is this what happened?

Unpredictable = circumstances beyond your control.

This post has been edited by hcandersen: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 - 07:25

[John Adams CR]

Yes apologies HCA, this is my first post so haven’t done this before.

Do you think my reply is sufficient or would I need to add anything else to say it was unpredictable? If not I’ll send as is. Thanks

[cp8759]

I would send in as-is, see what they come back with.