Euro 4 diesel car to Euro 6, is it worth it or practical |
Euro 4 diesel car to Euro 6, is it worth it or practical |
Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 17:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,535 Joined: 16 Jan 2009 From: Up north Member No.: 25,505 |
As Professor Google seems to have a lot of conflicting advice, I come here, for further enligghtenment.
Question 1. Is it practical/possible to convert a Euro 4 diesel Kia Sorento 2.5 CDTi to Euro 6 Question 2. Are there any VED advantages, if the answer to Q1 is yes. Cheers -------------------- Bridges burnt, Rubicons crossed. Parthian shots delivered, but always with style
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Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 17:37
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Thu, 1 Aug 2019 - 21:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 28 Mar 2014 From: Corby Member No.: 69,758 |
Well, considering how Euro 6 is just Euro 5 but with less NOx, then you might have an issue without a diesel particulate filter - the omission of this was allowed under Euro 4 rules.
There are solutions out there that *can* bring Euro 4 and Euro 5 into Euro 6 compliance (and better it) however as far as I can tell, no one actually gives a **** about it. Which is sad, as I'd happily drop a grand or two on a bit of kit that would make my diesel Euro 6 compliant. |
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Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 09:25
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As far as I can tell, no one actually gives a **** about it. As long as you can get the DVSA to agree that your car is now Euro VI, it allows you to drive into the London ULEZ1 for free2. Other such zones may follow. 1. Leaving aside the cases ongoing in the Council Tickets forum where it is argued that the signage is inadequate and doesn't indicate that you actually need to pay to enter it. 2. Apart from having to pay the regular congestion charge, that is. |
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Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 09:47
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1/ No, how would you ever get it type approved (answer is, you can't).....even if you could you'd be adding a urea system, SCR catalyst, new EGR system, new injectors, possibly a new pump, possibly a new DPF, new sensors and a New ECU with new wiring, the bill for that lost will be circa £8000 at retail. and that's assuming the engine internals haven't had to be changed.
2/ No VED is based on CO2, not HC, NOx, particluates and CO There are solutions out there that *can* bring Euro 4 and Euro 5 into Euro 6 compliance (and better it) . Like? -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 19:18
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……….. There are solutions out there that *can* bring Euro 4 and Euro 5 into Euro 6 compliance (and better it) . Like? Sell old Euro 4 car, buy Euro 6 vehicle ???? Some petrol burners can be reclassified if they are dual fuel with LPG but AFAIK, that is it. |
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Fri, 2 Aug 2019 - 22:38
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There are solutions out there that *can* bring Euro 4 and Euro 5 into Euro 6 compliance (and better it) . Like? It's not available on the market yet, sadly. Hence the rest of that sentence. No pressure from Government to aid funding research into retrofit kits for personal cars, and not much action from the private sector. Just demonstrations. |
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Sat, 3 Aug 2019 - 14:49
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Converting older diesel vehicles does not fit in with the current political agenda of 'encouraging' people to buy new and electric.
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Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 11:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Converting and petrol can to EU6 can be viable, a Diesel, no. Too many changes.
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Sun, 4 Aug 2019 - 21:42
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Lol most Euro 6 diesels are actually Euro 5 with a lot of ADBLUE added in that make it Euro 6 compliant!
It's quite funny, my Mini Cooper D is a new engine so does not require ADBLUE but I have driven a Mercedes C220 CDI and it required a boatload of Adblue and in fact if the adblue runs out you cannot even start the engine! So many Euro 6 diesels are not naturally Euro 6 compliant either, they need secret juice to make them compliant!! -------------------- Police Speeding Fines - Police 1 - speedfighter23 0
TFL traffic contraventions 0 - speedfighter23 2 Kensington and Chelsea 0 parking contraventions - speedfighter23 1 Brighton and Hove parking 0 - speedfighter23 1 Private PCN - Private Parking Solutions Limited 0 - speedfighter23 1 Tyre Puncture Pothole Claims: 0 Buckinghamshire Council - speedfighter23 1 0 TFL - speedfighter23 1 Result Pending: 1 Islington Council tyre puncture claim |
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Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 04:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
‘Adblue added in’, you mean a filler neck, tank, supply system, injector and the SCR catalyst in which it works, in addition to the extra sensors, ECU modifications and calibration.
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