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PCN Issued for parking in Suspended Bay with no signage
post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:00
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Firstly, I'd like to apologise if this issue has been discussed before but having searched for a reasonable time I could only find cases similar, such as signs being present at the time the PCN was issued but not the day before, etc.

Received a PCN today at 17:37 for parking in a suspended bay and think the circumstances make the ticket unfair, to say the least.

There were "At Any Time" cones along the high street in Ashby today but there was a large gap in the cones outside the chippy which was convenient as this is exactly where I needed to stop. I pulled up, checked around for signs and there were two visible: both fixed permanent and stating "Monday-Saturday. 8am-6pm. 1 hour. No Return within one hour", one to the front and one to the rear of the vehicle. There were no conflicting notices to suggest these signs were no longer appropriate. There were no cones between the two of these signs and there was also a sign in the chip shop window stating "Parking for Customers Only". Each of these factors leading me to believe that perhaps the shop had contested the suspension along the rest of the street and it did therefore not apply to this section of the road.

Got my Son out the car and went into the shop and ordered our food. As it was cooking, I saw a CEO approach my vehicle and begin making observations. I went out of the shop and he asked if the vehicle was mine, to which I admitted it was. He informed me I couldn't park there so I explained that I was only waiting on my food order and the only signs present indicated that I could indeed park there. He said he'd call his supervisor and if the food was done before his supervisor got there, I could leave penalty free.

The supervisor arrived and immediately said you cant park here today all the bays are suspended. I asked him where the signs were to explain this and his reply was, and I quote, "We don't need to put signs up for a tempory parking bay suspension". Surely this can not be correct?? He then told the original CEO to "Crack on and slap a ticket on him" and moved one of the "at any time cones that was at least three meters away to less than a meter away!

The ticket is only £35 if paid within the 14 days but it's the damn principle of the matter and to add insult to injury, as I took photos of the signage either side of the vehicle, I told my 5-year-old son to wait on the pavement at the front of the car and the supervisor must have said something quite upsetting to him as he was extremely distressed and upset to the point of tears when we got back into the car - Would it also be reasonable to ask the council to make this supervisor personally apologise for the upset he caused, especially if it is the case that this PCN has been issued incorrectly?

Many thanks to everyone who contributes to this thread.

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post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:00
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post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:38
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While cones are all well and good, a council has a duty to clearly sign any restriction, including suspensions, clearly to motorists.
Conversely, motorists have a duty to look for signs and obey them.
And are entitled to rely upon signage in place.
That there are parking bays and clear signage with nothing (except cones) to say you could not rely on them, I would say a good chance of winning.
100% without the cones being present but less so with cones around.
However, as cones can be moved and do not specify, except generally, where a suspension may be, still very high chance of winning IMO.
Streetview not much help BTW, shows DYLs not parking bays,-...3312!8i6656

I am not sure contravention is correct BTW.
For it to be, would need to be a temporary traffic order but in a parking bay, that would normally not apply.
With any challenge, must ask for a copy of the traffic order applicable.
Still does not excuse lack of appropriate signage

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post Wed, 11 Jul 2018 - 23:53
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QUOTE (saynotopcn @ Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 00:00) *
No Cone present in front of the vehicle:

There is, although almost cropped out of the picture. There are two of them which can be seen very close to the car.
One is also visible in the previous picture, although again, the picture has been taken from an angle which does not show it clearly.
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post Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 07:31
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The only thing on is work o/s No. 100 which is a distance away.

As DD has said, they would need a Sect 14 Order to enforce a Code 01 contravention and that would have to be posted on lamp posts long before the event.

I don't believe anyone other than a police constable can suspend a parking place on their own volition.

If a supervisor was there and a CEO was unsure as to whether to serve a PCN--there is something awry.

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post Thu, 12 Jul 2018 - 15:56
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I would definitely appeal, although you need to drop this BS about the cones not being there, we can all see that cones are visible in all three pictures. Your best bet is putting the burden on the council to prove that the suspension had lawfully been put into effect.

I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law.
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