[NIP Wizard] Location of Speed Camera incorrect |
[NIP Wizard] Location of Speed Camera incorrect |
Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 13:26
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - January 2019 Date of the NIP: - 8 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 9 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Langdale Road Dunstable outside school, Bedfordshire, United Kingdom Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I have never visited the location given on the NIP as the location for the speed camera NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:26:03 +0000 |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 13:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Where was your car at the time of the alleged offence?
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 13:48
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
I was driving the car in the NIP about 5 miles away from the the address in the NIP
So, I was driving on a different road (in the same county) with my wife as a witness. Apologies, it was more like 10 miles away This post has been edited by ElTel2: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 14:11 |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 14:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
My preferred approach is to make an initial bemused phone call (once 14 days has passed from the offence).
Either it's a plate misread or a mistake on the location itself. Given the proximity then I suspect the latter. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 14:31
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
I suspect the latter too, there was another speed camera very much closer to where I was at the time on the NIP
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 14:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
I suspect the latter too, there was another speed camera very much closer to where I was at the time on the NIP If so and they realise their mistake they may well drop it. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 15:18
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
Hopefully, the standing advice on this website seems to be to wait until 14 days after the NIP (so they can't just give you a new NIP at a different location) and then call them...
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 16:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
That's what I would do
Make a note of who you speak to I would still return the S172, stapled to a letter that denies the car was present and refers to the conversation Keep a copy and ask the Post Office for a certificate of sending What's odd about this case is the precise description as outside a school Usually these errors concern a name change along a road, a road with a similar name or an officer parked on one road to monitor another nearby Wonder if somebody forgot to change the location on the template This post has been edited by Redivi: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 16:18 |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 16:31
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
Okay, there is a speed camera outside a school on the location they have put on the NIP. Interestingly, there is also a speed camera outside a school at the location I was most likely at around the time they claim, but it is 10 miles away from the one on the NIP
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Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 17:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Member No.: 73,212 |
Okay, there is a speed camera outside a school on the location they have put on the NIP. Interestingly, there is also a speed camera outside a school at the location I was most likely at around the time they claim, but it is 10 miles away from the one on the NIP Langdale Road has a 20mph zone at the camera location. What speed, if any, has been given? Of course, the other location may also have a 20mph limit if it's close to a school. |
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Thu, 17 Jan 2019 - 06:20
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,832 |
Hi, my NIP stated that I was doing 39 mph in a 30 mph zone. Thanks to everyone for their help, I got a cancellation notice yesterday when I got home. Strangely, they wrote that they were taking into account the representations I had made to them, when I hadn’t had a chance to write to them yet. All’s well that ends well!
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Thu, 17 Jan 2019 - 08:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Sounds like another driver has already contacted them and they've realised that all the NIPs were wrong for that session
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