Bus Lane Ticket - Camden, Bus Lane Ticket along Kingsway, Borough of Camden |
Bus Lane Ticket - Camden, Bus Lane Ticket along Kingsway, Borough of Camden |
Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 13:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 28 Sep 2022 Member No.: 117,898 |
Hi all,
So I received a ticket in the post for driving in a bus lane. This was along Kingsway at 6:40pm on a Tuesday, while the bus lane was still operational. So I've followed my driving on Google maps and I can see that the bus lane I was in starts at 109 Kingsway and whilst it was operational and my vehicle was in the bus lane I can see on google maps that there seems to be a signpost missing at the start of that very bus lane that I was in (picture on Imgur). I've had a look online and the website below states that at the start of every bus lane it needs to have a sign, regardless of its a continuation or a new one. However, I've been unable to verify this by finding the source legislation. As such, I'd really appreciate any help from the lovely members of this forum. I've attached all the pictures they have to this post, but having run out of space I've uploaded the video to Imgur and you can find the link below: https://imgur.com/poXSNSL Picture of missing Signage: https://imgur.com/cIvTzPX Signage Source: https://penaltychargenotice.co.uk/bus-lanes...bus-lane-signs/ Thanks in advance everyone! This post has been edited by Poopoopi: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 13:38 |
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Sat, 22 Oct 2022 - 14:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,477 Joined: 14 Apr 2022 Member No.: 116,298 |
Just wait for the Enforcement Notice. As already stated, I am happy to do this one.
-------------------- People, we come and go Memories, they ebb and flow. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life.
People, we can be kind True love is hard to find. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life. Animals, we kill to eat For many, it’s just a treat. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance. As this is the Dance of Life. Our Earth is our Heavenly home God-given to freely roam. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance As this is the Dance of Life. One day, we will all be judged This simple truth cannot be fudged. When we carry on so blindly We do not act all so kindly. As this is the Dance of Life. As Above, and so Below A simple truth to help us grow. When we put aside our egotism We will really find altruism. As this is the Dance of Life. The Divine lives in all things Manifested in music’s rings. The planets are a testament To the everlasting firmament. As this is the Dance of Life. It's all in the wrist. |
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Sat, 22 Oct 2022 - 22:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,007 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Just wait for the Enforcement Notice. As already stated, I am happy to do this one. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 17 Nov 2022 - 00:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 28 Sep 2022 Member No.: 117,898 |
Thanks for all your help both and hope you enjoyed your holiday Schofeldt!
Just received the notice of enforcement today. Imgur: https://imgur.com/QClRIJZ https://imgur.com/khEyRMA I assume I Progress with option C contravention did not occur? |
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Thu, 17 Nov 2022 - 06:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,477 Joined: 14 Apr 2022 Member No.: 116,298 |
Thanks, I did. Correct re option C and send them this:
Dear Sirs Ref: PCN VRM I acknowledge receipt of the Enforcement Notice and refer to all our correspondence in this matter. These are my further formal representations against the Enforcement Notice and, of course, the associated Penalty Charge Notice: I challenge liability on the basis that the contravention did not actually occur since: Under section 4(1) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996, a PCN may only be served "on the basis of information provided by the use of a prescribed device", section 3 (1) defines a prescribed device in the following terms: “prescribed device” means a device prescribed under section 20(9) of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 or a device of a description specified in regulations made for the purposes of this section by the Secretary of State; In addition to being prescribed, the camera must also be approved, as sub-paragraphs 7(2) & (3) of Schedule 1 to the Act provide that: (2) A record produced or measurement made by a prescribed device shall not be admissible as evidence of a fact relevant to proceedings under paragraph 6 above unless— (a) the device is of a type approved by the Secretary of State; and (b) any conditions subject to which the approval was given are satisfied. (3) Any approval given by the Secretary of State for the purposes of this paragraph may be given subject to conditions as to the purposes for which, and the manner and other circumstances in which, any device of the type concerned is to be used. The council will appreciate that if its camera is not both prescribed under section 3(1) and authorised under paragraph 7 of Schedule 1, then its video is not admissible in tribunal proceedings so no contravention could be proved. According to this link: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/...pproved-devices it is my understanding, therefore, that your VCA certificate BLADM 038 refers to a Zenco camera which does not have Home Office Type Approval and to different legislation i.e. enforcement of bus lanes outside of London and is, therefore, invalid. Indeed, several senior adjudicators have already ruled upon this issue against Bromley, Barnet, Ealing, Lambeth and Waltham Forest, which council, the Chief Adjudicator urged to research the law in their failed application to seek a review. With particular regard to the Zenco camera, it is a matter of record that it is the same as that used by Barnet, Haringey and Lambeth and was found not have the correct Home Office approval as per Cases: 2160470243, 2220026347, 2220503650, 2220492907 and 2220492805. In view of the above, I request immediate cancellation of the Penalty Charge Notice and Enforcement Notice. Should you not agree to do so, I shall not hesitate to follow the process as far as the Tribunal to seek adjudication on the matter. Yours faithfully Name Address This post has been edited by Schofeldt: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 - 06:53 -------------------- People, we come and go Memories, they ebb and flow. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life.
People, we can be kind True love is hard to find. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life. Animals, we kill to eat For many, it’s just a treat. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance. As this is the Dance of Life. Our Earth is our Heavenly home God-given to freely roam. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance As this is the Dance of Life. One day, we will all be judged This simple truth cannot be fudged. When we carry on so blindly We do not act all so kindly. As this is the Dance of Life. As Above, and so Below A simple truth to help us grow. When we put aside our egotism We will really find altruism. As this is the Dance of Life. The Divine lives in all things Manifested in music’s rings. The planets are a testament To the everlasting firmament. As this is the Dance of Life. It's all in the wrist. |
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Fri, 18 Nov 2022 - 12:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 28 Sep 2022 Member No.: 117,898 |
Cheers Schofeldt
Just submitted online... lets see what happens and I will of course keep you all posted. |
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Fri, 18 Nov 2022 - 14:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,477 Joined: 14 Apr 2022 Member No.: 116,298 |
The Enforcement Notice @ page 1states "one ground", which is wrong and @ page 2 states tick box or boxes. Deary me.
-------------------- People, we come and go Memories, they ebb and flow. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life.
People, we can be kind True love is hard to find. When we fill our lives with emptiness This does not create true happiness. As this is the Dance of Life. Animals, we kill to eat For many, it’s just a treat. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance. As this is the Dance of Life. Our Earth is our Heavenly home God-given to freely roam. When we fill our lives with arrogance We create a huge imbalance As this is the Dance of Life. One day, we will all be judged This simple truth cannot be fudged. When we carry on so blindly We do not act all so kindly. As this is the Dance of Life. As Above, and so Below A simple truth to help us grow. When we put aside our egotism We will really find altruism. As this is the Dance of Life. The Divine lives in all things Manifested in music’s rings. The planets are a testament To the everlasting firmament. As this is the Dance of Life. It's all in the wrist. |
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