2x NIPs from the same camera, same time, different speeds |
Helping the motorist get justice 
Helping the motorist get justice
2x NIPs from the same camera, same time, different speeds |
 Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 21:15
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Hello, today I received 2 seperate NIPs
1 - for 48 in a 40 2 - for 49 in a 40 The alleged NIPs are both at the same time, date and location Has anybody had a similar experience or can anybody offer any advice... could there be a case for the camera being unreliable/wrongly calibrated? Thanks in advance greengloves |
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Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 21:15
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Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 21:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 287 Joined: 29 Sep 2016 Member No.: 87,439 |
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Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 21:43
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What type of camera, manned or unmanned. What is the location?
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 09:35
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Jan 2019 Member No.: 102,050 |
It was an automatic camera on the managed motorway section of the M62
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 11:19
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How accurate is the time? Seconds as well?
What is the location? (Exactly the same for both?) I'd ensure 14 days has passed since the allegation and make a bemused phone call. This post has been edited by Jlc: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 11:19 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 12:44
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Jan 2019 Member No.: 102,050 |
Thanks for the replies
The seconds are not shown on the notices, but they are the same to the minute; and the location is exactly the same for both. I’ve logged on to view the pictures which are not particularly clear but it looks like one is my car and the other is somebody else What is the significance of calling after 14 days of the allegation? This post has been edited by greengloves: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 12:45 |
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 13:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,777 Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Member No.: 23,623 |
QUOTE (greengloves @ Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 12:44)  What is the significance of calling after 14 days of the allegation? The first NIP to the Registered Keeper at his last known address must be served within 14 days. After that a new "First" NIP cannot be issued (well, it can, but it would not meet the legal requirements for a prosecution to proceed). If there is a need to issue a new NIP correcting errors on the first it will not be valid. Any request to provide the driver's details remains valid and must be responded to, however. |
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 13:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,580 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
QUOTE (greengloves @ Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 12:44) I’ve logged on to view the pictures which are not particularly clear but it looks like one is my car and the other is somebody else That's interesting. It appears they've sent you someone else's (alleged) offence... That bemused phone call is needed - but alas I suspect one of the offences is yours. I see no reason to doubt the accuracy of the measurement but the back office seems to have misprocessed one of the photos. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 23 Jan 2019 - 15:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Member No.: 6,174 |
And if you feel generous, wait 14 days before calling.
That should give the other driver a get out of jail free card. |
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