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Red light camera trigger sensors, Where are they?
Baaartz
post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 14:57
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Hi, just a quick question, does anyone know where the sensors that trigger the red light camera are based?

I have had a pretty awkward situation on the a41 in cricklewood when I was driving my tipper, the lights were green I have approached them with caution however when my cab unit went through on green the lights have turned to amber, I was loaded so I had to slow down drastically to turn right on that junction, I'm pretty sure my back wheels cleared the white stop line as soon as the lights have turned to red.

Now is there also any grace period until the camera goes active to allow for situations such as these?

Is there also anything I could do to get this NIP revoked if it has arrived?
I'm pretty sure anyone that drives anything with a wagon had a similar situation, sometimes they're unavoidable as you cant simply speed up like you would in a car with a loaded lorry.

I have had attached a picture with a red line roughly stating where my back wheels were when the light has turned red, I just want to know if there is still a chance of me receiving the nip or was I already past the sensors which trigger the camera?

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Any help and advice is welcome,
Regards.

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post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:24
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Someone more knowlegable will confirm the location of the sensors.

What strikes me from the photos is that at least part of your vehicle must still have been behind the line - the position of the wheels is irrelevant.
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Baaartz
post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:47
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QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:24) *
Someone more knowlegable will confirm the location of the sensors.

What strikes me from the photos is that at least part of your vehicle must still have been behind the line - the position of the wheels is irrelevant.


I always thought it's the wheels that trigger the sensors? Might have been wrong.
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post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:54
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QUOTE (Baaartz @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:47) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:24) *
Someone more knowlegable will confirm the location of the sensors.

What strikes me from the photos is that at least part of your vehicle must still have been behind the line - the position of the wheels is irrelevant.


I always thought it's the wheels that trigger the sensors? Might have been wrong.

Those days are gone. Inductive loops detect metal objects.
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Baaartz
post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 17:11
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QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:54) *
QUOTE (Baaartz @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:47) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 15:24) *
Someone more knowlegable will confirm the location of the sensors.

What strikes me from the photos is that at least part of your vehicle must still have been behind the line - the position of the wheels is irrelevant.


I always thought it's the wheels that trigger the sensors? Might have been wrong.

Those days are gone. Inductive loops detect metal objects.


Right either way if my vehicle was across the line and one of the sensors triggers it would only result in 1 picture being taken and not 2 which means no fine to my understanding?
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Jlc
post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 19:31
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If the loop detects a vehicle moving then 2 shots are taken in quick succession to prove the vehicle was moving.

If the camera unit see a long vehicle then they may not issue a ticket - but in law an offence occurs if any part of the vehicle moves over the stop line when red is illuminated.


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PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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baroudeur
post Mon, 26 Oct 2020 - 13:49
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The camera takes two photos. The first of whatever crosses the sensor at the stop line when the light turns red and the second at a sensor at a predetermined distance past the stop line. These will show if the vehicle was moving by virtue of the times on the photos and may also be used to indicate the speed of the vehicle for speeding offences.
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MartinioNow!
post Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 01:30
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You should go for manual which was given to your devices
also I would like to know were those camera were maden
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MartinioNow!
post Sat, 14 Nov 2020 - 02:17
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QUOTE (MartinioNow! @ Fri, 6 Nov 2020 - 02:30) *
You should go for manual which was given to your devices
also I would like to know were those camera were maden


For example here you can look for spanish manual translation services https://pickwriters.com/spanish-translation-services I hope it helps
The last red light camera I was using is maden in Spain, but I had no problem like this
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