CPM, Received a PCN was just dropping off my daughter! |
CPM, Received a PCN was just dropping off my daughter! |
Thu, 29 Sep 2016 - 16:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
Hi,
I took my daughter to the hairdresser. I took her into the salon whilst my other daughter stayed in the car (only few seconds inside) when I came out there were 2 guys standing on the other side of the road, one had a body camera around his chest. I thought nothing of it until I received the PCN through the post. I'm fuming as I didn't see a sign but when I've gone back to check there's a sign on the other side of the rd from where I parked. Any advise much appreciated |
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Thu, 29 Sep 2016 - 16:53
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Thu, 29 Sep 2016 - 18:16
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
Have a read of other threads to get a feeling for the procedures.
Let's see if you can come back and tell us what you are going to do before anyone else posts the solution!! -------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 07:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 22,678 Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Member No.: 27,239 |
CPM or PCM ?
Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd specialises in putting up small signs on one side of what will appear to be a public road |
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 10:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
Thank you Gan, its CPM & the sign is on the other side of the road to where I had stopped. I literally just took my daughter into the hairdressers, couple of minutes if that!
Cabbyman if I had the answer I wouldn't be on here asking. I've had a look but I'm confused.com |
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 10:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Yes, but while youre on here, have you read any other threads? Used the search box at the top right with the PROPER FULL NAME of the parking company to see if other people have posted?
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 11:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
Hi nosferatu1001 I've been looking since last night but to be honest I'm none the wiser. I'm not sure as to what is the best approach as some posts say to not bother replying back, others say the opposite, some say to reply back stating that I will not be making any payment....
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 11:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
GSV of where you parked please.
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 11:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
peterguk sorry but what is GSV?
I didn't receive a fine on my windscreen, only through the post this sign is on the other side to where I stopped |
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 11:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
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Fri, 30 Sep 2016 - 12:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
will try to get the street view up
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Sun, 2 Oct 2016 - 18:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
having trouble uploading street view but have taken some photos
this photo is taken as you enter the area to where the restrictions are I'm having trouble uploading photos & the actual PCN, can anyone help? I have scanned on to my computer as jpeg but still saying that the file is to large |
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Sun, 2 Oct 2016 - 20:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Yes read the FAQ about posting - go to tinypics or photobucket and upload there. Use the "IMG" links to embed them so they appear her (people aren't likely to,click to another website)
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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 - 08:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
thank you very much nosferatu1001 as you can tell I'm not very good with computers!
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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 - 08:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
This post has been edited by southpaw82: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 22:26 |
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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 - 08:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
I have attached some photos of the area. There is a sign on the left pavement to where I parked & another half way up a pole which I didn't see. As mentioned before i was a few minutes inside the hairdresser. Am I right in thinking that they have to allow you a period of time to be able to read the signs and then decide if you park or not? Any help and advise very appreciated
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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 - 10:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18,751 Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Member No.: 32,130 |
Yes under the IPC Code of Practice, which you can Google & read but don't bust a gut over it, nor pore over any appeal wording, because the PCN will NOT be cancelled. This is a private firm and these invoices (rip-off penalties) are how they get their money. No appeal will 'work' as such but we are not telling you to pay.
Write to your MP and Theresa May telling them how this cash cow should not be allowed and the threat of credit-clamping (court/CCJ) is worse than car clamping used to be: https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/...rite-to-your-MP It is not a fine, just an unsolicited invoice but some firms do try small claims. UKCPM are not prolific - look at the figures, similarly unlikely as a lottery win: http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/UK_Car_Park_Management.html QUOTE I've been looking since last night but to be honest I'm none the wiser. I'm not sure as to what is the best approach as some posts say to not bother replying back, others say the opposite, some say to reply back stating that I will not be making any payment.... - BPA firms, we say appeal and then win (mostly) at POPLA stage. This is not a BPA firm so you get no POPLA stage offered. - IPC firms like this, appeal once (as registered keeper within 21 days of the PCN) then ignore, or ignore from the start because there will be no cancellation. Then come back here is you actually get a court claim. A 'debt' (even a spurious one) can be pursued for up to six years so tell them if you move house, to make sure you know about any letters, just in case of a late claim that you'd need to defend. Please don't be tempted to take the view of paying it for a quiet life - people who pay, support and fund the next few PCNs against vulnerable victims. Stop the chain - if no-one paid the whole scam would collapse. Also even a lost hearing at court only costs a defendant about £160 or so, all told (no high costs) and no CCJ as long as you miss no deadlines or papers, so there are no huge repercussions and no effect on credit rating awaiting you. |
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Mon, 3 Oct 2016 - 20:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
thank you for your help SchoolRunMum
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Tue, 4 Oct 2016 - 10:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Npothign there indicates it is a private road. In fact the roadway would be covered under teh RTE until the edge of the highway, which would be the property line. So theyre enforcing somewhere they cannto do so.
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Tue, 4 Oct 2016 - 12:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 21 May 2014 Member No.: 70,802 |
thank you nosferatu. Just trying to draft a letter :-)
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Tue, 4 Oct 2016 - 19:19
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
Where is this? I could not find it on GSV using "The Meads" or Kamson's Pharmacy or the like. Presumably the OP knows the location referred to by CPM...
It is strange that the landowner would want to prevent people from patronising those businesses. [The RK's surname remains on the scanned docs.] --Churchmouse |
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