[NIP Wizard] 75 in 50 mobile camera |
[NIP Wizard] 75 in 50 mobile camera |
Thu, 11 May 2023 - 12:46
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 4 May 2023 Member No.: 119,830 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - May 2023 Date of the NIP: - 7 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 9 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A56 By Pass (50mph), Haslingden(Mobile) Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Registered Keeper How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Road changes from a 50 to 70 but i was doing 75 the whole way, caught me in the 50 bit. What’s the punishment for 75 in 50? I have 2 months till my license turns 2 years old so i’m really hoping it’s 3 points or another punishment. Should i send off the section 172 as soon as? NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 11 May 2023 12:46:17 +0000 |
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Thu, 11 May 2023 - 13:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 17 May 2021 Member No.: 112,702 |
It’s right on the limit for a 3 point and £100 fixed penalty.
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Thu, 11 May 2023 - 13:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
The sentencing guidelines for 66 to 75 in a 50 are
Disqualify 7 – 28 days OR 4 – 6 points As you are right at the top of that 6 points would normally be the result, with a bit of mitigation it may be possible to get that down to 5. HOWVER those only apply if it goes to court and 75/50 would normally see a fixed penalty offered of 3 points. There is no benefit in sending off the reply quickly, nor in sending it slowly. If it did go to a court hearing it's likely you hear nothing for nearly 6 months and just when you think it's been forgotten receive the Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJPN - aka summons), the delay in the hearing doesn't help with your new driver act period as it is offence date not sentencing date that counts. This post has been edited by The Rookie: Thu, 11 May 2023 - 13:27 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 11 May 2023 - 13:43
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 4 May 2023 Member No.: 119,830 |
The sentencing guidelines for 66 to 75 in a 50 are Disqualify 7 – 28 days OR 4 – 6 points As you are right at the top of that 6 points would normally be the result, with a bit of mitigation it may be possible to get that down to 5. HOWVER those only apply if it goes to court and 75/50 would normally see a fixed penalty offered of 3 points. There is no benefit in sending off the reply quickly, nor in sending it slowly. If it did go to a court hearing it's likely you hear nothing for nearly 6 months and just when you think it's been forgotten receive the Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJPN - aka summons), the delay in the hearing doesn't help with your new driver act period as it is offence date not sentencing date that counts. So if it went to court, what would be my chances of mitigating it down from 6? I know i’m ducked either way from insurance just don’t wanna lose my license |
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Thu, 11 May 2023 - 14:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,300 Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,602 |
The sentencing guidelines for 66 to 75 in a 50 are Disqualify 7 – 28 days OR 4 – 6 points As you are right at the top of that 6 points would normally be the result, with a bit of mitigation it may be possible to get that down to 5. HOWVER those only apply if it goes to court and 75/50 would normally see a fixed penalty offered of 3 points. There is no benefit in sending off the reply quickly, nor in sending it slowly. If it did go to a court hearing it's likely you hear nothing for nearly 6 months and just when you think it's been forgotten receive the Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJPN - aka summons), the delay in the hearing doesn't help with your new driver act period as it is offence date not sentencing date that counts. So if it went to court, what would be my chances of mitigating it down from 6? I know i’m ducked either way from insurance just don’t wanna lose my license OP, don't even think of going to court if you don't have to. It's virtually certain that you'll be offered a fixed penalty. Make sure you read the offer carefully, and comply with the instructions. |
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Tue, 16 May 2023 - 14:38
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 4 May 2023 Member No.: 119,830 |
Forgot to mention i’ve done a speed awareness course before, would it still be 3 points and £100 fine?
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Tue, 16 May 2023 - 14:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Yes, that would have no impact on the decision making process (unless it was to see if you were eligible for a course anyway).
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 30 May 2023 - 22:08
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 4 May 2023 Member No.: 119,830 |
It’s been almost 22 days since I got the NIP, i sent it back but i’m paranoid that it hasn’t got there so i could be prosecuted for not naming the driver, is there anyway i can find out if it reached them or not?
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Tue, 30 May 2023 - 22:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
Phone them and ask? Radical idea, I know.
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Wed, 31 May 2023 - 06:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
3-4 weeks for turnaround isn't at all unusual.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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