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ruddlescounty
post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 11:07
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Hi.
I have received a notice from PE ( I was away when it arrived so cant say the date received, but either 1st, 2nd or 3rd Oct), it is dated 27th Sept.
I have since received a reminder, dated 6/10/18.

this was for an offence dated 5/7/18 nearly 3 months ago.

the time shown on the ticket amounts to 11 minutes.


the actual event was that this was a pickup at the Radisson blu entrance, the car did not park, so I think it was driven through the car park to the hotel entrance, waited, collected and drove back out.

could you advise my next steps please?
from reading here it seems I should not ignore. but do I appeal or simply write and reject?

would it help if I scanned and posted my notice.

thanks
Ruddles

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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 11:51
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So if there was no ticket on the windscreen then the Notice to Keeper has to get to you within 14 days otherwise between days 28 and 56. This seems to have missed both timescales.

Remove the timeline comments as it hints at a driver.

Does the Notice to Keeper mention POFA liability on the back page? If not then they know they have got it wrong and just hope that you don't realise that and do not know any difference.

So send this as an appeal


Dear Sirs,

I have just received your Notice to Keeper xxxxx for vehicle VRM xxxx

You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to deliver the notice within the relevant period of 14 days as prescribed by section 9 (4) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

There is no legal requirement to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.

I do not expect to hear from you or your debt collectors, again except to confirm that no further action will be taken on this matter and my personal details have been removed from your records.

Yours etc


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ruddlescounty
post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 15:37
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many thanks.
I cant see any reference to POFA anywhere, but have uploaded the letter in case I have missed it.
unless anyone advises anything different, I will send off the response on Monday.
thanks again.
R
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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 17:31
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you wiped out the dates! That's a PE non POFA Notice to keeper, they know they've failed. Just send the suggested letter and wait to see what happens. You may have to appeal to POPLA but that should be successful.
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ruddlescounty
post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:01
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er… yes, sorry though it should be generic enough not to be recognisable smile.gif
dates are:
Date of event:5/7/18
date issued: 27/9/18
date: 27/9/18
btw do I send letter or is email preferable?
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SchoolRunMum
post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 18:04
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Neither - they have an online appeals page, as the PCN tells you.

Choose 'registered keeper' NOT DRIVER OF COURSE in the dropdown! Unless you are the hirer/lessee in whihc case choose that instead (are you)?

NEVER post letters to a parking firm, PE seem to have a mail black hole.
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post Fri, 12 Oct 2018 - 21:35
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And take a screen grab of what you put on there before you send.
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