Diesel & Petrol cars |
Diesel & Petrol cars |
Wed, 26 Jul 2017 - 02:42
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BBC reporting that HMG plans to ban all Diesel & Petrol cars & vans in UK by 2040. No mention of lorries, HGVs, buses & trains though. Oil Co refineries will be eff redundant.
HMG have just cancelled electrification (in part) of the Mcr to Leeds route in favour of diesel units. Will HS2/3 be solely be operated by electricity? I'll be long gone by 2040. This post has been edited by ford poplar: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 - 02:45 |
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Tue, 24 Oct 2017 - 15:08
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I have been driving an Audi A3 2.0l diesel for 13 years from new.
Feeling a little guilty regarding the polluting effects of my old engine, relieved I don't live in London and a little tempted by scrapage schemes, I looked into replacing it with a modern, hopefully less polluting option. My choices included: New Petrol or Diesel (ICE) Hybrid Electric Vehicle (EV) Most hybrids only manage about 20-30 miles on battery power alone. If using the battery, they are still lugging about the weight of an ICE making them much less efficient. If using petrol, then the weight of the battery pack reduces the mpg compared to a non-hybrid. For me either mode represents an unnecessary compromise with no savings on road fund licence or servicing either. Many electric vehicles now have a range well in excess of 100 miles which covers the daily commute of a large number of motorists. They are not cheap (especially if your after a Tesla) but the government is offering a £4,500 grant towards a new EV and up to £500 to install a home charging point (off road parking required.) There is less maintenance required and no road tax (unless you spend over £40,000). Most journeys I undertake (99%) are well within the range of an EV. I have therefore ordered an e-golf. £4500 government grant, £5500 scrappage and £3000 dealer discount... If it can accommodate your driving needs an EV is currently a good option. I can only see the incentives diminishing in future should the move away from fossil fuels continue. I'll let you know how I get on in due course....there is something of a lengthy lead time so delivery not likely before Spring 2018. |
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Mon, 30 Oct 2017 - 14:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
If using petrol, then the weight of the battery pack reduces the mpg compared to a non-hybrid. Completely ignoring the inconvenient fact that properly engineered Hybrids (such as most the Toyota's and the Ampere) the Hybrid system allows the engine to operate far more efficiently than it could in a non Hybrid and that the weight of the battery pack has a negligible effect on cruising fuel economy anyway. Simply put your assumption is very badly flawed. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 6 Nov 2017 - 03:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,816 Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Member No.: 24,962 |
I sold my 1.8 L petrol Mondeo (approx. 30 mpg urban) for peanuts just before scrappage deals were announced
I bought a Prius Business petrol hybrid demonstrator at a discount, saved on Road Tax for 1st year and MOT for 3 years. Current Ins is comparable. Short urban trips are ~60mpg. I no longer commute but estimate that a PHEV charging time would add 5 hours to the journey time taken for a petrol hybrid. Only time will tell, but Toyota 5 yr Warranty needs a positive re-think |
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Mon, 6 Nov 2017 - 05:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Charging time adds nothing AT ALL to journey time in a PHEV, how so? Are you confusing a PHEV with a BEV?
PHEV works fine, you can charge or not, in fact gov't research has suggested that 85% of PHEV's are never charged from the mains, the issue with that is that the two main ones (Outlander and BMW i3) are pretty poor (compared to what the Hybrid competition) being used as just a Hybrid and better are available. I cycle mostly locally, CO2 emissions pretty close to zero as my energy (food) is nearly all from sustained resources and just a small amount in processing/delivery. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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