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Mathew Reed
post Mon, 13 Jan 2020 - 15:26
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Hi Guys

I’m new to this and desperately need advice here

I have sent my nip for a speeding offence but now this has been forwarded to the SJP stage for displaying no L plates and doing 65 in a 50 zone (caught via safety camera van) in my partners car (nip reflecting this)

The question id like to know - is this a ban now and court hearing or will I just get a fine and points for this!?

I rang the police department for ticketing and they confirmed it’s at the SJP stage and I’m now awaiting papers

My mental health is so bad (suicidal) and I’m so worried I will be named and shamed here also

No excuse here and please forgive me here as I know I did wrong sad.gif

A very worried Matt
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post Mon, 13 Jan 2020 - 19:50
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QUOTE (Mathew Reed @ Mon, 13 Jan 2020 - 18:22) *
So, for my provisional, no insurance, band a fine and l plates offence - this will only be 6 points due to same occasion!?

This no insurance thing is entirely a figment of your own imagination - there's no indication that your insurance policy would have been invalidated, and neither are you being prosecuted for that offence. Forget about it.


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nosferatu1001
post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 08:07
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Indeed - OP, please listen and understand: you have been charged with, it sounds like, two offences. The offence of "no insurance" you have made up out of your own imagination

You should get a TOTAL OF 3 points for this, if you just deal with the SJPN without ringing anyone, talking about anything more, etc. Just fill out thepaperwork, presuming it is as you have told us, and that should be the outcome

Again: "no insurance" is something you have apparently made up.
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 12:05
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In addition, if you are not being supervised the offence is 'driving otherwise than in accordance with your licence', the same offence as is committed if you fail to display your L-plates. You can't commit that same offence twice on the same occasion so even if they spotted it, it wouldn't be another offence.


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Mathew Reed
post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 12:42
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Hi all

The offences are:

'driving otherwise than in accordance with your licence'

65 speeding in a 50 speeding


What would be the outcome for this please guys

Thanks for your continued support
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 13:06
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As youve already been told, at least three times! smile.gif
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 13:06
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QUOTE (Mathew Reed @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 12:42) *
What would be the outcome for this please guys


Have a read of posts numbers 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 13, 17, 20, 22 and 23 (and possibly most of the others). Nothing has changed since yesterday.

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Mathew Reed
post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 16:03
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Hiya.

Please can anyone confirm if a SJPN case is publicly named in the local newspapers - when pleading guilty within 21 days for motor offences of speeding and no licence

Also will the DBS (enhanced) be flagged up for the offences (if it’s recorded etc)

Many Thanks

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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 16:08
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One case, one thread.

I very much doubt it will be in the paper - if it’s not in open court how would the press know about it?

Only recordable offences will appear on a DBS check. Other information can appear at the discretion of the chief officer of police. I don’t believe either of the offences you have been charged with are recordable offences.


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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 16:14
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Even if it was to be heard in a "normal" court it is most unlikely to be reported in the press. A normal traffic list may run to anything between 50 and 100 cases and the local rags do not send reporters to cover them unless there is somebody of interest or there is a case of particular interest in the locality.
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:08
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:14) *
Even if it was to be heard in a "normal" court it is most unlikely to be reported in the press. A normal traffic list may run to anything between 50 and 100 cases and the local rags do not send reporters to cover them unless there is somebody of interest or there is a case of particular interest in the locality.

Actually my local rag does report all those heard in open court. Skim through looking for people I may know or who live on my street.....

Of course it seems pointless of the OP to ask as he can’t affect the outcome either way.


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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:32
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:08) *
Actually my local rag does report all those heard in open court. Skim through looking for people I may know or who live on my street.....


Most unusual! Wish my local rag did that! biggrin.gif
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Mathew Reed
post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:42
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Open court isn’t a SJPN is it !?
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:46
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QUOTE (Mathew Reed @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:42) *
Open court isn’t a SJPN is it !?

Correct, it's a magistrate sitting in an office processing paperwork.
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 18:15
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:32) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 17:08) *
Actually my local rag does report all those heard in open court. Skim through looking for people I may know or who live on my street.....


Most unusual! Wish my local rag did that! biggrin.gif

Mine does


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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 19:40
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Not so unusual then. I must be leading a sheltered life! huh.gif
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post Tue, 14 Jan 2020 - 19:56
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My local publishes a list of case outcomes, I think they get it from the court office.


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