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krazykopites
post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 11:23
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Hi there all

I got fined back in October 2018 for a bus lane infringement (unknown to us) going into Florence, Italy.
I fought the fine with the fact they were outside of their time limit for notification.
I havent hear anything since then until Saturday I got a letter reminding me of the fine and that they are passing this on to a collection agency.

So help please if you can. Where do I stand? Do I have any rights? Will they pass the debt on to a collection company?

Thanks in advance

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post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 11:36
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Florence Italy?
Or Florence road Coventry or Florence Park Derby?
What time limit would apply in your case?

Debt collection makes it sound like a civil matter, not criminal.

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post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 11:47
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 12:36) *
Florence Italy?
Or Florence road Coventry or Florence Park Derby?
What time limit would apply in your case?

Debt collection makes it sound like a civil matter, not criminal.



Sorry Italy - I have updated the post

350 days off the top of my head. I dont have all the paperwork with me here at the moment
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post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 12:15
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And what makes you think there is such a limit in Italian law, and presumably this was a hire car?

Unless you are a frequent visitor to the area then there is nothing they can do to you and you can just ignore (but file) the demands.


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post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 12:22
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 13:15) *
And what makes you think there is such a limit in Italian law, and presumably this was a hire car?

Unless you are a frequent visitor to the area then there is nothing they can do to you and you can just ignore (but file) the demands.



Yes it was a hire car - I got a charge for them supplying my information

I read on a forum (Tripadvisor or Rick Steves) that there was a timesacale they had to abide with

OK I will file it. I was trying to get re-assurance they couldnt pursue any further
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post Mon, 16 May 2022 - 13:26
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QUOTE (krazykopites @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 13:22) *
I read on a forum (Tripadvisor or Rick Steves) that there was a timesacale they had to abide with

There probably is to the Italian equivalent of the registered keeper, after that though... Not least if the hire co gave them an incorrect address (as seems likely really) and they have only just traced you.


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 13:15) *
And what makes you think there is such a limit in Italian law, and presumably this was a hire car?

There is such a limitation period in Italian law, it's 365 days.

QUOTE (krazykopites @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 12:23) *
So help please if you can. Where do I stand? Do I have any rights? Will they pass the debt on to a collection company?

Post the notice you have received. Challenging this should be really easy as it's way out of time. You could just ignore it, but if it's a sure thing on appeal, you might as well appeal it.


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 15:34) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 13:15) *
And what makes you think there is such a limit in Italian law, and presumably this was a hire car?

There is such a limitation period in Italian law, it's 365 days.

QUOTE (krazykopites @ Mon, 16 May 2022 - 12:23) *
So help please if you can. Where do I stand? Do I have any rights? Will they pass the debt on to a collection company?

Post the notice you have received. Challenging this should be really easy as it's way out of time. You could just ignore it, but if it's a sure thing on appeal, you might as well appeal it.


Italian motoring penalty process

Florence and other Italian cities make €00000s from foreign motorists

If/when it's time expired (after 360 days) the authority can pass it to a collection agency who will attempt to collect the penalty but have no way of enforcing any payment in the UK. They are restricted to 2 years from the date they receive the details from the authority.

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