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Sat, 26 May 2018 - 11:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
Driver parked in car park on said date believing a virtual permit was in force.
Was the drivers first day working at said hospital. Car park is shared by staff and patients. Driver parks in the same car park now with a windscreen permit. The NTD was binned by the driver. No mention of POFA on the NTK. To late to appeal to Open Parking. Can still appeal to the IPC. No point in doing that. I think the driver should get the employer to get the ticket cancelled. The driver just wants to ignore it. |
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Sat, 26 May 2018 - 11:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,124 Joined: 8 Feb 2013 Member No.: 59,842 |
Get the employer to cancel (try the Facilities Manager). If the RK is a TU member, get them involved too. Other than that, it's ignore everything short of receipt of a LBC or MCOL, neither of which should be ignored.
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Fri, 22 Jun 2018 - 18:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
Ok , update on this. A virtual permit was in force for this and can be proved so this is not an issue anymore and will be sorted Monday.
The keeper received another letter today 60 days after the parking event. Can they now invoke POFA this late in to the proceedings? Just curious. |
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Fri, 22 Jun 2018 - 18:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Can they now invoke POFA this late in to the proceedings? The original NtK had the 'Please be warned...' text. I haven't checked if all the conditions are met but they don't have to mention PoFA by name. This post has been edited by Jlc: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 - 18:20 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 22 Jun 2018 - 18:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
The Notice to Keeper arrived between 28 to 56 days after the parking event
This is just a reminder Open Parking is a trading name of Imperial Civil Enforcement Solutions You would think that a company that has been in existence for more than 30 years would know about the requirement to disclose its identity on invoices Strange company Its business is providing systems and software to the parking industry According to their October accounts, they have £3m+ in the bank but there looks like a large fall in their activities Wonder if business is on the slide so they've decided to compete with their former customers I would file and ignore; wait for a Letter Before Action to arrive before replying that the driver had a permit |
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Wed, 29 Aug 2018 - 19:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
Just an update ,East kent hospitals cant/wont cancel the PCN , it must be done through Open Parking.
Some time back i contacted open parking on the drivers behalf using the Open parking webform asking them to recheck if a valid virtual permit was in force. They told me they couldn't discuss it with a third party. Blah Blah. It appears they have now assigned the debt to me. I now have a letter from ZZPS addressed to me claiming i owe them £95. How many begging letters will i get? Who begs for money after ZZPS? Will i gat a LBA? i dont think so. |
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Wed, 29 Aug 2018 - 20:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10,695 Joined: 23 Apr 2004 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 1,131 |
Just carry on ignoring.
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Wed, 29 Aug 2018 - 23:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
It appears they have now assigned the debt to me. Not that is it necessarily relevant here, but just in case: I haven't seen such a blatant misquotation of POFA for some time. There is no "28 day limit" for identification of the driver; it need only occur prior to the PPC's initiation of court proceedings. --Churchmouse |
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Thu, 6 Sep 2018 - 21:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
Just an update.
Letter from QDR Solicitors today saying ZZPS have instructed them to recover the debt. Letter quotes a different PCN number, date and event from any paperwork recieved from Open Parking or ZZPS. Ignore mode is still operating. |
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Fri, 7 Sep 2018 - 07:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
I would make a Subject Access Request to Open Parking
This will tell you if there are two PCNs in play or if ZZPS has sent the wrong details to QDR |
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Fri, 7 Sep 2018 - 08:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
The Creditor is Open Parking, so on what basis would their "debt collectors", ZZPS, be taking "legal action" against the OP? ZZPS doesn't even have an imaginary contract with the OP. Their whole approach makes no sense.
--Churchmouse |
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Fri, 7 Sep 2018 - 08:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 9,985 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Member No.: 21,992 |
ZZPS doesn't even have an imaginary contract with the OP. No, but they've probably got some QDR letterheaded paper in their printer... -------------------- Sometimes I use big words I don't understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
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Fri, 7 Sep 2018 - 17:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
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Fri, 7 Sep 2018 - 18:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Good idea
Do that as well |
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Sat, 8 Sep 2018 - 17:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
Dont suppose you know the E-MAIL address?
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Sat, 8 Sep 2018 - 19:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,898 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 From: South of John O'Groats, north of Cape Town. Member No.: 16,066 |
SubjectAccess.Requests@dvla.gsi.gov.uk
-------------------- Cabbyman 11 PPCs 0
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Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
ZZPS doesn't even have an imaginary contract with the OP. No, but they've probably got some QDR letterheaded paper in their printer... I can confirm they do have QDR paper in their printer. And payment is long overdue! |
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Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18,751 Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Member No.: 32,130 |
Did you do this to the parking firm yet?
QUOTE I would make a Subject Access Request to Open Parking
This will tell you if there are two PCNs in play or if ZZPS has sent the wrong details to QDR |
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Wed, 17 Oct 2018 - 18:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27 May 2013 Member No.: 62,191 |
There are two parking tickets in play.
Stupid driver!!!! Dvla confim they were contacted twice. Ignore mode firing on all cylinders. |
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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 12:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
What about the SAR?
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