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[NIP Wizard] NIP Received for 47 in a 30
Nailup
post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 10:13
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - February 2021
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A5199 LEICESTER ROAD, WIGSTON, LEICESTERSHIRE, LEICESTERSHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 10:57
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Any questions?
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Nailup
post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:06
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Yes, sorry.

Really just interested to find out whether this is likely to be fixed penalty or not.

I know it's too high for for an awareness course but am concerned in case it falls into a court summons as I am aware it would be band B (higher points / bans).
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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:22
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QUOTE (Nailup @ Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:06) *
Yes, sorry.

Really just interested to find out whether this is likely to be fixed penalty or not.

I know it's too high for for an awareness course but am concerned in case it falls into a court summons as I am aware it would be band B (higher points / bans).


Crystal ball is playing up!! How can we help if you haven't added the speed and prevailing limit??!!
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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:31
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Sorry I thought I had....but it's in the title as well.

The NIP is for 47 in a 30, which is not in dispute.
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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:35
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QUOTE (Nailup @ Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 11:31) *
Sorry I thought I had....but it's in the title as well.

The NIP is for 47 in a 30, which is not in dispute.


My bad - didn't read the title.

Should be in range for COFP so 3-points and £100 if you ame the driver etc....
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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 12:00
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A Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty will be offered up to 50 in a 30 limit (some forces to 55), so a CoFP is as close to certain as it can be.

Don’t forget to send in your licence as well, far too many end up in court by forgetting (or not reading the damn instructions) to do so.

If you read online about sentencing guidelines and Band B, they only apply if the matter goes to court, and if you get a CoFP and accept then that never happens.

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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 12:42
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Thank you, that's what I was looking for. Appreciate it.

I will 'suck it up' as they say.

I will certainly remember to send the licence off once the conditional offer arrives. Assuming the addresses aren't different, I may go 'old fashioned' and pay it by cheque and enclose the licence with that. That way I'll know that they have received the licence when the cheque clears. Depends on what the instructions say as to whether that will work, of course.

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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 13:23
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QUOTE (Nailup @ Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 12:42) *
Thank you, that's what I was looking for. Appreciate it.

I will 'suck it up' as they say.

I will certainly remember to send the licence off once the conditional offer arrives. Assuming the addresses aren't different, I may go 'old fashioned' and pay it by cheque and enclose the licence with that. That way I'll know that they have received the licence when the cheque clears. Depends on what the instructions say as to whether that will work, of course.


At this stage you 'only' have to name the driver.

Don't mess about paying etc just post 1st class and get a free proof of posting at the post office and of course look out for its return!! Cashing a cheque doesn't mean anything else in the envelope actually arrived....................
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post Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 14:20
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QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 13:23) *
QUOTE (Nailup @ Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 12:42) *
Thank you, that's what I was looking for. Appreciate it.

I will 'suck it up' as they say.

I will certainly remember to send the licence off once the conditional offer arrives. Assuming the addresses aren't different, I may go 'old fashioned' and pay it by cheque and enclose the licence with that. That way I'll know that they have received the licence when the cheque clears. Depends on what the instructions say as to whether that will work, of course.


At this stage you 'only' have to name the driver.

Don't mess about paying etc just post 1st class and get a free proof of posting at the post office and of course look out for its return!! Cashing a cheque doesn't mean anything else in the envelope actually arrived....................


+1 You can send by Recorded delivery (I know it costs around £1.30 extra) but you know that the envelope has reached at the destination
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Nailup
post Fri, 19 Feb 2021 - 20:29
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Thanks to all, I am clear on my next course of action.

For the benefit of others I will update the thread as the matter takes its normal course.

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Nailup
post Wed, 7 Apr 2021 - 21:07
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I promised to update this in case it benefits others.

I did indeed get a conditional offer of fixed penalty, came through dated 16th March.
I have now paid that online and posted the licence and form off to the specified address, recorded delivery.

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