Parking Ticket: Liverpool City Council Old Hall Street Options

[twigtwigtwig]

Hi,
After some advice. I was issued a ticket today from LCC. I was parked in a bay, which was not marked anywhere that it was for loading/pay and display etc.
I have a permit which is valid all the time, apart from between 9-5 Mondy - Friday.
I was given a ticket today at 9:22, with the code 01 - Parked in a Restricted Street During Prescribed Hours.

I am an NHS worker who is working this weekend, so this was my day off in leiu. The council recently suspended ticketing due to the COVID situation, as more people are having to work from home. I think that this ticket is unfair on this ground, but more so the fact that there is no parking restriction etc advertised in this area.

I have attached a copy of the PCN, GSV of where I was parked (I was parked where the white van is in this screenshot) and a copy of the evidence submitted.

Grateful for any advice.

Thanks.

M

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/13ef3zxzpnun88r/...cHyO011Uea?dl=0

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[stamfordman]

It's deceptive because it's shaped like a bay but it is marked with a single yellow line, so the contravention looks to be correct given that this is bound to be in a controlled zone. It is used as a loading bay - I had to go back to 2014 to find a GSV with no van in it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4088905,-2....3312!8i6656

[Incandescent]

+1
It's not a parking bay, even though it looks like it at first glance, but I think if it was used for loading it could at least have been made clear by marking it as a loading-only bay instead of just painting a yellow line in it. Yellow lines have two exemptions, (1) loading/unloading, and (2) boarding/alighting passengers. If it's in a CPZ the entry signs will show the relevant days and times, so parking there may be possible at certain times and on certain days but obviously not when you parked there.

I think the discount is the best option unless the PCN contains fatal errors.

[stamfordman]

Given key workers status (and the CEO did take a pic of permit), discretion should be asked for, but Liverpool is one of the most unforgiving councils we come across, which rather belies its socialist credentials. More Penny Gain than Lane.

This post has been edited by stamfordman: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 - 22:30

[twigtwigtwig]

Thank you both for your advice on this matter. I will try to appeal this tomorrow before work.
I appreciate your feedback - and agree - it certainly could be demonstrated more clearly what the bay is etc.

-Stamford Man - I most certainly with your comments regarding LCC, not just in regards to Parking Enforcement. They toot the trumpet of socialist values, while happily approving planning permission for excessive student accommodation which sits empty, selling green spaces for luxury home developments and I think in the last few months a council official was even arrested for fraud.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-50845071

[cp8759]

Post a draft of your representation on here before sending it.

[twigtwigtwig]

I've not sent my appeal, but have written as below. Any feedback would be appreciated!

Dear LCC,

I am writing to appeal the ticket that was issued to me last week. I am appealing on two grounds:

1. I parked in what looked like a pay-and-display / parking bay. It was not clearly marked anywhere that the bay was for loading only. I am a valid permit holder, which is valid for parking in the Business Quarter, apart from between 9-5 Monday - Friday. However, with the current COVID situation, Liverpool City Council recently allowed Parking Permit Holders to park using their permits during weekdays. Therefore, I thought that I was parked in a pay and display bay, with a valid permit.

2. I am an NHS key worker, working as a Pharmacist on a COVID admissions ward. The very reason that I was at home on a Friday and hence parked, was because this was my day off as I was working from 8am-8pm on Sat & Sun. Therefore, I appeal to you to view the attached evidence (a copy of my permit, copy of my ID badge from work, and schedule), and disregard the ticket.

Thanks,

[stamfordman]

"It was not clearly marked anywhere that the bay was for loading only."

it isn't for loading - it's not marked as for anything. It's just part of the road, with a usual yellow line, which is what the contravention is for.

I think you really only have a plea for discretion over the bay confusion.

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I am writing to challenge the ticket that was issued to me last week.

I parked in what looked like a pay-and-display / parking bay - it is in-set from the road just like a bay. I am a valid permit holder, which is valid for parking in the Business Quarter, apart from between 9-5 Monday - Friday. However, with the current COVID situation, Liverpool City Council recently allowed parking permit holders to park using their permits during weekdays. Therefore, I thought that I was parked in a pay and display bay, with a valid permit. I am also an NHS key worker, working as a pharmacist on a COVID admissions ward.

I understand from the PCN that it is for parking on a yellow line, but the line was not apparent to me and the location I parked in is clearly shaped like a parking bay.

I would please ask you to view the attached evidence (a copy of my permit, copy of my ID badge from work, and schedule), and cancel the ticket on this occasion owing to the confusion over the bay.

This post has been edited by stamfordman: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 - 12:01

[twigtwigtwig]

Thanks Stanford Man. I will let you know how I get on.
Best,
M

[twigtwigtwig]

Great news. Appeal was upheld and ticket cancelled.
Thanks for advice.

Currently look to move to somewhere with less restrictive parking!

[stamfordman]

That's good news - glad it worked. I wasn't hoping for much from Liverpool.

Watch out for yellow lines and controlled parking zones. Always check bay signs. Watch out for resident parking zones that only have entry signs - I know Liverpool has these.