PePiPoo Helping the motorist get justice

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Received 3 pcn on windscreen UKCPM
Geestar
post Thu, 25 Oct 2018 - 13:09
Post #1


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Hi there,

The keeper received 3 pcn's around April time this year and wrote representation of them all, which obviously they rejected. The representation the keeper sent was the template from the NEWBIE THREAD.

The keeper has now received Debt recovery plus limited letter wanting £160 for each pcn.

Just wondering should I do anything at this stage?

Before I parked where I did I asked the enforcement officer if I could he said bays 93,94 and 95 is not being controlled by UK cPm and got him to send me the evidence which he did and have attached here.

Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.
Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
Attached Image
 
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
3 Pages V  < 1 2 3 >  
Start new topic
Replies (20 - 39)
Advertisement
post Thu, 25 Oct 2018 - 13:09
Post #


Advertise here!









Go to the top of the page
 
Quote Post
kommando
post Sat, 27 Oct 2018 - 16:55
Post #21


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 4,163
Joined: 6 Oct 2012
Member No.: 57,558



QUOTE
because bays 93,94 and 95 in Abbott Road is not under your jurisdiction


Are not is
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Sat, 27 Oct 2018 - 17:06
Post #22


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Thanks kommando will update soon, any more errors need rectifying?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Sun, 28 Oct 2018 - 13:36
Post #23


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Dear Sirs,

Your Ref*******
RE: Letter before action

You are using my personal data in a manner that has not been authorised and illegal. Accessing, processing and passing on personal data to third party in such a way has caused significant damage and substantial distress. The damage and distress caused is unwarranted.

The information you are using was obtained from the DVLA and UK Car Park Management Ltd had no reasonable basis to apply because bays 93,94 and 95 in Abbott Road are not under your jurisdiction to enforce as shown in the attached excerpt. The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on where I was parked, I give you a 10 days to acknowledge and comply with these demands.

UK Car Park Management Ltd have obtained my details under the KADOE agreement from the DVLA which strictly forbids the passing on of information to third parties. Passing of such delicate information is unlawful use of personal data.

The consequence of this is that UK Car Park Management Ltd are in breach of the DATA Protection Act 2018 and 1998 respectively.
As a consequence, you are now in breach of the Data Protection Act and must now desist from further use of my information and to cease any action you are taking as a result of the unlawful acquisition of it by cancelling any charges you may think outstanding, and erasing my data from your databases to prevent automatic escalations.

I require UK Car Park Management Ltd remit the sum of £750, £250 for each infringement of my rights under the DPA2018 and DPA1998, for access, processing and passing my data onto a third party


This is not a situation that you should overlook lightly as there is ample evidence of the lack of compliance to the Data Protection Act otherwise a claim will follow using data protection principles, and you will be taken to court for any continuance. Your authority for this is Ferguson v British Gas and Vidal Hall v Google.

Yours Sincerely,


Updated kommando, anything else I can add or take out? Thanks for the help guys really appreciate it.

Also should I send 3 separate letters or just one letter for all three? And I remember someone said to keep proof of posting
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Steve_999
post Sun, 28 Oct 2018 - 13:48
Post #24


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 1,043
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
From: West Sussex
Member No.: 20,304



"The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on where I was parked, I give you a 10 days to acknowledge and comply with these demands."
This sentence doesn't make sense.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Albert Ross
post Sun, 28 Oct 2018 - 19:42
Post #25


Member
Group Icon

Group: Bad Boyz & Girlz
Posts: 1,483
Joined: 30 May 2013
Member No.: 62,328



The Picture of the enforcement area does not specify where bays 61 - 82 are or 1 - 60 for that matter.
Compound that with the fact that there is no indication of where you parked, or the authority that the images you have attached are from the Parking company.

Establish first that there is no landowner contract for the space(s) that you parked before starting any litigation.

You wouldn't want to start something, defend a counterclaim and see that they do have a contract. Then pay unreasonable costs.


--------------------
The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of the dusk.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 00:01
Post #26


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Sun, 28 Oct 2018 - 14:48) *
"The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on where I was parked, I give you a 10 days to acknowledge and comply with these demands."
This sentence doesn't make sense.



How would I re-write this?

QUOTE (Albert Ross @ Sun, 28 Oct 2018 - 20:42) *
The Picture of the enforcement area does not specify where bays 61 - 82 are or 1 - 60 for that matter.
Compound that with the fact that there is no indication of where you parked, or the authority that the images you have attached are from the Parking company.

Establish first that there is no landowner contract for the space(s) that you parked before starting any litigation.

You wouldn't want to start something, defend a counterclaim and see that they do have a contract. Then pay unreasonable costs.


The other bay numbers are for nearby roads like nairn street etc.
Who can I request the contract from UKCPM or landowners (Poplar Harca)?

Thanks for help guys, really need it as all new to this
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nosferatu1001
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 08:35
Post #27


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 18,385
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Member No.: 15,642



Your bit around KADOE is irrelevant. That is NOT the reason why they are in breach ofthe DPA
They are in breahc of the DPA because they have accessed your data in the FIRST PLACE without reaosnable cause
If theyre not contracted to infest the area you were parked, they have no cause ot acess your data

Entirely take out anything to do iwth passing on data to third parties

You will need to prove where the bays are - get photos. Get the photos of where your vehicle was parked.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 08:54
Post #28


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Do I have to get the contract from the landowners? Nosferatu1001

I will take out the KADOE bit

Regarding the photos the PPC's CEO took some when they invoiced me! But I will take some more when I get the chance
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 09:29
Post #29


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Dear Sirs,

Your Ref*******
RE: Letter before action

You are using my personal data in a manner that has not been authorised and illegal. Accessing of personal data in such a way has caused significant damage and substantial distress. The damage and distress caused is unwarranted.

The information you are using was obtained from the DVLA and UK Car Park Management Ltd had no reasonable basis to apply because bays 93,94 and 95 in Abbott Road are not under your jurisdiction to enforce as shown in the attached excerpt.

The consequence of this is that UK Car Park Management Ltd are in breach of the DATA Protection Act 2018 and 1998 respectively.
As a consequence, you are now in breach of the Data Protection Act and must now desist from further use of my information and to cease any action you are taking as a result of the unlawful acquisition of it by cancelling any charges you may think outstanding, and erasing my data from your databases to prevent automatic escalations.

I require UK Car Park Management Ltd remit the sum of £750, £250 for each infringement of my rights under the DPA2018 and DPA1998.

The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on the land where I parked needs to be understood, thus I give you 10 days to acknowledge and comply with the above demands.

This is not a situation that you should overlook lightly as there is ample evidence of the lack of compliance to the Data Protection Act otherwise a claim will follow using data protection principles, and you will be taken to court for any continuance. Your authority for this is Ferguson v British Gas and Vidal Hall v Google.

Yours Sincerely,
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nosferatu1001
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 14:02
Post #30


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 18,385
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Member No.: 15,642



Reasonable cause - is a phrase.It is the term used to access your data.

The consequence of this is that UK Car Park Management Ltd are in breach of the DATA Protection Act 2018 and 1998 respectively, and I require you to cease and desist from further processing of my data.

You need to give the authorities for this - Vidal Hall v Google for the DPA breach giving rise to dmages even when no monetary figure can be put, which was £750 for ONE breach to MULTIPLE companies, and Ferguson v British Gas which is the harasasment aspect, which you have not touched. It isnt "your authority...." - that sentence is meaningless by itself, and it is MY authority as YOU are writing this letter as yourself.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 15:34
Post #31


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Dear Sirs,

Your Ref*******
RE: Letter before action

You are using my personal data in a manner that has not been authorised and illegal. Accessing of personal data in such a way has caused significant damage and substantial distress. The damage and distress caused is unwarranted.

The information you are using was obtained from the DVLA and UK Car Park Management Ltd had no reasonable cause to apply because bays 93,94 and 95 in Abbott Road are not under your jurisdiction to enforce as shown in the attached excerpt.

The consequence of this is that UK Car Park Management Ltd are in breach of the DATA Protection Act 2018 and 1998 respectively, and I require you to cease and desist from further processing of my data.

I require UK Car Park Management Ltd remit the sum of £750, £250 for each infringement of my rights under the DPA2018 and DPA1998. My authority for this is Vidal Hall v Google and Ferguson v British Gas.

The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on the land where I parked needs to be understood, thus I give you 10 days to acknowledge and comply with the above demands.

This is not a situation that you should overlook lightly as there is ample evidence of the lack of compliance to the Data Protection Act otherwise a claim will follow using data protection principles, and you will be taken to court for any continuance.

Yours Sincerely,

Thanks Nosferatu1001, any better?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 16:33
Post #32


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Mon, 29 Oct 2018 - 15:02) *
You need to give the authorities for this - Vidal Hall v Google for the DPA breach giving rise to dmages even when no monetary figure can be put, which was £750 for ONE breach to MULTIPLE companies, and Ferguson v British Gas which is the harasasment aspect, which you have not touched.


Should the above be mentioned in the letter?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nosferatu1001
post Tue, 30 Oct 2018 - 08:22
Post #33


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 18,385
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Member No.: 15,642



Yes, you need to explain why the cases are relevant. Otherwise youre just spouting random elements.
Have you looked for other LBAs?
Have you looked up the cases to understand what youre citing?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Tue, 30 Oct 2018 - 15:23
Post #34


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



So I need to put a sentence somewhere for harassment.?
Majority of the LBA's I've come across are being sent to Gladstone solicitors, however this one I've been advised to send to UKCPM.
I have vaguely looked at the cases and I must admit I don't understand the legal jargon to be honest. But will look into further to have an understanding of this.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
SchoolRunMum
post Tue, 30 Oct 2018 - 22:13
Post #35


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 18,197
Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Member No.: 32,130



Have a look at the two threads by Henry Hippo from a few months back. He had counter claims in both, mentioning Vidal Hall and compensation for distress, and he won one of the counter claims.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Tue, 30 Oct 2018 - 23:26
Post #36


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Will do school run mum, thanks for the help guys
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Wed, 31 Oct 2018 - 01:37
Post #37


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Dear Sirs,

Your Ref*******
RE: Letter before action

You are using my personal data in a manner that has not been authorised and illegal. Accessing of personal data in such a way has caused significant damage and substantial distress. The damage and distress caused is unwarranted.

The information you are using was obtained from the DVLA and UK Car Park Management Ltd had no reasonable cause to apply because bays 93,94 and 95 in Abbott Road are not under your jurisdiction to enforce as shown in the attached excerpt.

The consequence of this is that UK Car Park Management Ltd are in breach of the DATA Protection Act 2018 and 1998 respectively, and I require you to cease and desist from further processing of my data. Any further processing of my personal data will be considered harassment and a flagrant disregard of the DPA.

I require UK Car Park Management Ltd remit the sum of £750, £250 for each infringement of my rights under the DPA2018 and DPA1998. My authority for this is Vidal Hall v Google and Ferguson v British Gas.

The lack of authority that UK Car Park Management Ltd have on the land where I parked needs to be understood, thus I give you 10 days to acknowledge and comply with the above demands.

This is not a situation that you should overlook lightly as there is ample evidence of the lack of compliance to the Data Protection Act and protection of harassment act. Otherwise a claim will follow using data protection principles, and you will be taken to court for any continuance.

Yours Sincerely,


I've read one of Henry hippos thread 19 pages long only went through a few pages of it, will continue reading it tomorrow and need to read vidal Hall v Google and Ferguson v British Gas up entirely and some point. Very time consuming all of this but I hope after all this time and effort put it I get justice from these parasites

This post has been edited by Geestar: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 - 01:41
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 09:25
Post #38


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



Am I good to send the LBA to UKCPM?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
nosferatu1001
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 12:36
Post #39


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 18,385
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Member No.: 15,642



Start at the back fo rthe LBAs - then you get the most recent version.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Geestar
post Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 13:45
Post #40


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 35
Joined: 25 Oct 2018
Member No.: 100,600



As in, search on the pepipoo forum right, then check for the most recent?

My one above must be missing alot information I take it?

This post has been edited by Geestar: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 - 13:46
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

3 Pages V  < 1 2 3 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Advertisement

Advertise here!

RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: Tuesday, 13th November 2018 - 03:36
Pepipoo uses cookies. You can find details of the cookies we use here along with links to information on how to manage them.
Please click the button to accept our cookies and hide this message. We’ll also assume that you’re happy to accept them if you continue to use the site.