PePiPoo Helping the motorist get justice Support health workers

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Didn't receive Penalty Charge Notice in the post
videodharma85
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:12
Post #1


New Member


Group: Members
Posts: 3
Joined: 3 Dec 2018
Member No.: 101,259



Hi,

I got a shock this morning when a couple of guys came to my house and clamped my car.

I had to pay them £405 otherwise they were going to take my car away.

After phoning Essex County Council about this, I was told that I had driven in a bus lane back in July, and that three PCN letters were then sent to me in August, September & October. I honestly did NOT receive any of these letters, so I was totally in the dark about any of this until this morning.

So my question is - can I appeal against any of this, and get the £405 reduced?

I'm not questioning the bus lane infringement, but had I received the letters I could have paid the fine immediately and not incurred additional fees.

Thanks.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies (1 - 7)
Advertisement
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:12
Post #


Advertise here!









Go to the top of the page
 
Quote Post
peterguk
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:17
Post #2


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 13,735
Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Member No.: 14,720



Press "report" and ask a mod to move your post to the correct forum.

Get your V5C out. Is the name and address EXACTLY correct? What is the DOC REF DATE at bottom of page 2?

Don't assume your V5C is correct, get it in front of you.

This post has been edited by peterguk: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:18


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Incandescent
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:37
Post #3


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 20,919
Joined: 22 Apr 2012
Member No.: 54,455



As above (peterguk), it looks like you have failed to update your V5 when you moved house. Is it still un-updated ? If so, then you will have an almighty struggle getting the matter reverted to the original PCN or Notice to Owner.

However, if you want to have a go, you will need to submit an Out-of-Time Statutory Declaration to the Traffic Enforcement Centre explaining why you did not receive the statutory documents sent out before bailiffs can be instructed. As the council can oppose your OOT, it is invariably rejected by TEC. At this point you can ask for the papers to be reviewed by a County Court judge with a view to overturning the original rejection of your OOT. This costs £100 and is non-reimbursable, and there is no guarantee of the decision being overturned.

On the other hand, if your V5 was in process of updating when the council requested your name and address from DVLA, you would be in with a chance. So what is the situation ?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
videodharma85
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:39
Post #4


New Member


Group: Members
Posts: 3
Joined: 3 Dec 2018
Member No.: 101,259



Thanks, I asked for this post to be moved.


The address on the V5C is exactly correct. The Doc Ref date is 31-07-12.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Neil B
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 19:30
Post #5


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 29,269
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Member No.: 16,671



QUOTE (videodharma85 @ Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 16:39) *
The address on the V5C is exactly correct. The Doc Ref date is 31-07-12.

So you are faced with explaining how three separate notices, sent over a period of 3-4 months ALL
went astray.

Any clues?


--------------------
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 11 May 2018 - 12:30) *
Neil is good at working backwards.

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
videodharma85
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 20:22
Post #6


New Member


Group: Members
Posts: 3
Joined: 3 Dec 2018
Member No.: 101,259



Not a clue I'm afraid.

Because I haven't received a PCN, I don't even know the date, location or details of my infringement.

I guess I need to request a copy of the PCN and maybe that will reveal something?

I don't mind paying a fine if I've driven in a bus lane (that's my stupidity), but it's not my fault I never received a PCN in the post.

Thanks.


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Neil B
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 20:28
Post #7


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 29,269
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Member No.: 16,671



Start by phoning the Court, TEC 0300 123 1059

Ask the address they have on record.


--------------------
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 11 May 2018 - 12:30) *
Neil is good at working backwards.

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Incandescent
post Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 21:23
Post #8


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 20,919
Joined: 22 Apr 2012
Member No.: 54,455



QUOTE (Neil B @ Mon, 3 Dec 2018 - 20:28) *
Start by phoning the Court, TEC 0300 123 1059

Ask the address they have on record.

+1
This could be one of those fairly rare occasions where the council has messed up transcribing the name and address from DVLA into their system. This would mean all three statutory documents would go astray as they are all produced by the same system.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Advertisement

Advertise here!

RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: Friday, 29th March 2024 - 13:09
Pepipoo uses cookies. You can find details of the cookies we use here along with links to information on how to manage them.
Please click the button to accept our cookies and hide this message. We’ll also assume that you’re happy to accept them if you continue to use the site.
IPS Driver Error

IPS Driver Error

There appears to be an error with the database.
You can try to refresh the page by clicking here