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Geejay
post Sun, 25 Jun 2017 - 17:21
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Hi folks. Hopefully a quick one.

I (as the keeper of the vehicle) received a PCN from Britannia at a car park in Scotland for failure to make a valid payment. They've admitted that they don't know the driver's name or address, and said I "should" advise this.

Thanks to advice on here before, I successfully avoiding having to pay for a PCN elsewhere in Scotland simply by ignoring and filing away all correspondence. I just wanted to make sure nothing has changed and that the same still applies!

I can upload a scan of the PCN later if required - uploading attachments doesn't seem to be working at the moment.
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SchoolRunMum
post Sun, 25 Jun 2017 - 21:08
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Yes the same applies in Scotland as it ever did. A couple of cases have been won where people have gone and admitted who was driving. But not from Britannia, as they haven't a clue and don't even do court in England, let alone North of the border.

Ignore them. No need to show us their NTK, we've seen them before.

Collect the letters, laugh at the demands and come back if ever you get a claim (highly unlikely, and with this one Britannia have no hope).
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kommando
post Mon, 26 Jun 2017 - 07:56
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SRM +1

Ignore
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Geejay
post Sun, 30 Jul 2017 - 20:30
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Thanks, SRM and kommando.

I now have a letter regarding the matter from a debt recovery company. I've had a letter from the same debt recovery company regarding a previous parking ticket, but the letter has changed since then (perhaps people were getting wise to the wording of the previous letter!).

Most of the text can easily be translated as the usual bluster designed to scare you, but there is one sentence that caught my eye:

"If we don't hear from you, we'll take this to mean that you agree you're liable for [the parking charge]."

My guess is that this is similar bluster? Surely the mere act of ignoring the letter can't lawfully be taken by them as an admission of liability?
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post Sun, 30 Jul 2017 - 20:49
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QUOTE (Geejay @ Sun, 30 Jul 2017 - 21:30) *
"If we don't hear from you, we'll take this to mean that you agree you're liable for [the parking charge]."

Surely the mere act of ignoring the letter can't lawfully be taken by them as an admission of liability?


Course not. Just more scare tactics to get you to mess up. continue to ignore.
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nosferatu1001
post Mon, 31 Jul 2017 - 04:30
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I woudl report them to Scottish trading standards for that rubbish, myself. Such a complete piece of nonsense designed to scare you into contacting a set of wastes of air.
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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 14:25
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Hey,

Just wanted to check if there was any update on this?

As RK I received NTK PCN from Britannia. Best in Scotland to still ignore?

TIA
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kommando
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 15:04
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No change yet, Murdo Fraser MSP is trying to invoke Keeper liability as part of his plan to 'improve' private parking but this will not be retrospective if he gets it through. If you are in his constituency you should complain and tell him he is an idiot for suggesting keeper liability.

So safe to ignore but keep checking for future tickets in case Murdo cons keeper liability onto statute.

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Spudandros
post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:54
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QUOTE (kommando @ Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 15:04) *
No change yet, Murdo Fraser MSP is trying to invoke Keeper liability as part of his plan to 'improve' private parking but this will not be retrospective if he gets it through. If you are in his constituency you should complain and tell him he is an idiot for suggesting keeper liability.

So safe to ignore but keep checking for future tickets in case Murdo cons keeper liability onto statute.


I've already had words with Fraser on this. He's unrepentant and previously, in 2015, tried to introduce keeper liability whilst acting on behalf of BPA. Anyone in Scotland reading this should write to their MSP warning them that Murdo Frasers bill is a Trojan horse that aims to make potentially innocent people liable for the debt of another but hides it under seemingly reasonable suggestion that will, in any case, be covered by Gregg Knights Westminster bill. and should be rejected. Ask they also forward it to colleagues

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ConsumerNeedingH...
post Wed, 16 May 2018 - 12:46
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Have recently received a letter from Debt Recovery (Zenith) as RK. Still the case that I shouldn't respond? TIA
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post Wed, 16 May 2018 - 13:02
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Still ignore in Scotland
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kommando
post Wed, 16 May 2018 - 13:32
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Ostell +1 , toothless in England and Wales, even less teeth in Scotland.
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